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  1. #11

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    point being, it's old tech and has nothing at all to do with 'botting'.

    for blizzard, the line is simple. if the key gets pressed whether or not you are there.. you are botting.
    if it requires you to initiate the key press in order for the result to occur, you are not.

    seriously, do you look at your pen and think it's a robot? how about your tv? washing machine?
    these are all machines, by the classic definition. no AI required.

    and btw, a G15 will push different keys then what you press, if you want it to. it'll even delay then or repeat them... which is definitely against the TOS since it'll keep going without you being there. and you can get it at your local best buy.

  2. #12

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    Yeah but that crytpo machine could not be hooked up and put in use to do what keymaps do and you know it!

    Part of botting involves software making a decision for you and when the software decides "oh here's the [-key, instead of sending the [-key to 4 other wows, I'm going to send the ^h key to wow1, the 7-key to wow2, the @-key to wow3, etc. See the difference? The do-not-pass is somewhat of a grey area because you could unbind WASD easy enough (and any other key for that matter) and get the same effect but really the software *is* MAKING DECISIONS.

    Yes the G15 is programmable and you can get banned if you program delays, etc. to play unattended but the G15 cannot be programmed to send 5 different keystrokes to 5 different computers when you press a single G-key so it's not a valid point in this debate.

    If you can perform in hardware exactly what you are doing with the software multicasters then you should be 100% safe but when you step outside of that and start doing things that can't easily be done with existing hardware then that's where the problems begin.

  3. #13

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    1 Keypress = 1 Action

    Not automation. Kthxbai.
    Wilbur

  4. #14

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    seriously, you need to understand what botting and AI are before trying to point to a simple translation and say it's the same.

    who new keyclone was AI... forget skynet... keyclone will rule the world!

  5. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Xar',index.php?page=Thread&postID=38221#post38221
    ...cannot be programmed to send 5 different keystrokes to 5 different computers when you press a single G-key so it's not a valid point in this debate.
    You can just as easily bind the 'G' key to 5 different actions for each of the instances in the game itself, instead of mapping the key with keyclone. The end result is the same. The only difference is that you are translating the keystrokes to their actions in keyclone, instead of changing keybindings in the game.

  6. #16

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'bryanc',index.php?page=Thread&postID=38331#post38 331
    You can just as easily bind the 'G' key to 5 different actions for each of the instances in the game itself, instead of mapping the key with keyclone. The end result is the same. The only difference is that you are translating the keystrokes to their actions in keyclone, instead of changing keybindings in the game.

    OMG HAXX!
    Wilbur

  7. #17

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'bryanc',index.php?page=Thread&postID=38331#post38 331
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Xar',index.php?page=Thread&postID=38221#post38221
    ...cannot be programmed to send 5 different keystrokes to 5 different computers when you press a single G-key so it's not a valid point in this debate.
    You can just as easily bind the 'G' key to 5 different actions for each of the instances in the game itself, instead of mapping the key with keyclone. The end result is the same. The only difference is that you are translating the keystrokes to their actions in keyclone, instead of changing keybindings in the game.
    Actually when I typed "G-key" I meant the programmable keys on the G15 keyboard as that is what they are called, I did not mean the letter G key.

    What you are saying though is the core of my point, to keep software multicasting "pure" IMO you need to adjust your keybindings in wow and adjust your hotbars such that you are landing the same key to each instance of wow (just as a hardware multiboxer would) otherwise you are getting 5 different keys for one keypress, yes it's just 1 key on each wow but it's 5 DIFFERENT KEYS and a piece of software is making the decision which key lands where.

  8. #18

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    A piece of software is not making the decision. The user is. And that makes all the difference.

  9. #19

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    Guys I just stole some white paint from a store and painted an X over my Z button, and a D over my P button on my keyboard ... Will I get banned now ?

    But infact that's what it does kinda
    healatankadpsadin + 3 shamans + mage ... pwn

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