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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    Then ppl started commeting about certain addons of some sort?
    ya but the addons everyone was talking about, including snowfallkeypress, can't do what you want to do, since you have to achomplish two things in one action. that addon can't bind actions or even macros to keyup, keydown. it only allows you to take a character on your keyboard, and specify if it "accellerates" the key-up by sending the key-up action to the game client as soon as your keyboard sends it to the game client. It however, can't have one thing done ingame on keydown, and then something else on key-up.

    if you aren't interested in a trial of Lavasoft to use ISBoxer, then try HKN and dump octupus. There is a specific key broadcast that is triggered on key-ups of certain keys that will get this achomplished.

    Let me know if you need anything else man and GL :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by coglistings View Post
    ya but the addons everyone was talking about, including snowfallkeypress, can't do what you want to do, since you have to achomplish two things in one action. that addon can't bind actions or even macros to keyup, keydown. it only allows you to take a character on your keyboard, and specify if it "accellerates" the key-up by sending the key-up action to the game client as soon as your keyboard sends it to the game client. It however, can't have one thing done ingame on keydown, and then something else on key-up.

    if you aren't interested in a trial of Lavasoft to use ISBoxer, then try HKN and dump octupus. There is a specific key broadcast that is triggered on key-ups of certain keys that will get this achomplished.

    Let me know if you need anything else man and GL :P
    I would Like to point out that I have had an origanal WoW [Licensed Project] (Programable) Zboard for years
    and the Zboard with wow keyset Macro's allow you to program it to do one action on press and one on release (so I must assume since its an approved product, that this feature then must be allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    All of you stop f**king up my thread! I simply asked for how to IWT target on first press, then dps on the second press on the same button. Not a debate about what is bannable or not! Still havent gotten any answer about this. Is there an easy way to do this without addons/software/hardware?
    Nikita, you did get your answer. Yes, it can be done with ISBoxer or HKN or any multiboxing program that has the ability to toggle keypresses. No it can't be done any other way.

    Coglistings, there's a lot of things that we do that can't be done with the default interface or "legit" LUA addons, not the least of which is broadcasting to multiple clients. But it is NOT automation. Just like it's not automation when I press ONE single key on my Razor Naga and it sends WoW Ctrl+Shift+Alt+PgUp. You get to decide what keypress goes to what client. Afterall, you don't send all keys to your slaves at all times, right? That's not something that is possible without a program that can filter your keypresses between clients.

    At the very basest of basics, we are all sending every single keypress to a third-party program, and it is THAT program that sends the commands to each individual WoW. And if you want to go to the letter of the law, we could very well say it is cheating, because technically, we're not playing the game, we're playing the app. The app is technically what is interacting with the game. That right there is the argument that people have been throwing out since the dawn of time about why multiboxing is cheating.

    But, time and time again, Blues come back and say that is perfectly legit for us to multibox as long as it remains multiboxing and not botting or using automation. Time and time again, they say that multiboxing is not only ok, it also does not violate the oh so holy of holies, "spirit of the game." So, WoW doesn't recognize individual Keydown Keyup actions, well, it's not RECEIVING keydown keyup commands. Our boxing programs are. To these programs, a key down vs keyup is just the same a "full" keypress of 2 completely different keys.

    They are not altering the game client to make it think keydown and keyup are individual events, or "saving" such actions to send as a delayed string of commands, all they are doing is sending the commands it receives as it receives them. There is no automation in that. It is not altering the packets the game is sending and receiving between the individual client and the game server. It is not hacking. It is not doing things without physical input for each action, that is, a key press to do the first and a key release to do the next. It is not botting. Jamba follow strobing and follow after combat are closer to automation/botting, and that is perfectly legit programming done within the confines of the game's LUA.

    And best of all, if you don't want to use such "questionable" tactics, then you don't have to. *I* don't use Keydown/keyup for IWT and DPS, but I am happy to defend its use. These same people you are arguing with are also be the very first people to call out actions that ARE stepping into automation, botting or hacking.

    Now, the question has been answered. This debate has derailed the OP's thread and has gone on long enough without going anywhere but further OT.

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