1 button IWT and dps

[Nikita]

Im not sure if im the dumbass here asking the wrong questions! All im asking is if its possible to make 1 button (which I will spam press/mash without any software) to press IWT on the first press, and on the second press do my dps rotation!

[coglistings]

Im not sure if im the dumbass here asking the wrong questions! All im asking is if its possible to make 1 button (which I will spam press/mash without any software) to press IWT on the first press, and on the second press do my dps rotation!

no, you need a software programmable keyboard or HKN or ISBoxer with keyup events occuring. not sure about your Octupus software soltion but I don't think it supports keyup events based responses at all.

[Khatovar]

Yes, it is possible, however, I don't know if Octopus can do it. It would require that Octopus is able to alternate your keypresses as no in game macro can be used for movement, which is what is required in using Interact with Target.

I haven't used Octopus, so I couldn't tell you if it has the ability to map key toggles like ISBoxer and HotKeyNet can. It may just be straight broadcasting where 1 is always going to be 1, where as in HKN and ISBoxer can use a means of toggling where 1=1 the first time, 1=2 the second time, etc.

[Nikita]

Thanks Khatovar and coglistings, THAT was the answer I was looking for. +132 rep for you guys!
If ppl would have read my question we wouldnt be having such a long post about it! So basicly I need to get ISBoxer or something similar to make this happen?

[Khatovar]

HKN and ISBoxer can do it, Keyclone might but don't quote me on it. I haven't used anything else, so I can't comment beyond that.

[Cptan]

I think what you need is no different from 2 step macro.

Never used Octopus, so can't advise on the setting needed. But, the post by Dancock may solve your problem

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=34310

It basically changes action bar whenever you press the designated key, and thus you get macro 1, macro 2, macro 1, macro 2, ...... I didn't use this method as I am using script based AHK. Those have adopted this method seems to love it.

Good luck, and have fun. Let us know if your problem is solved or not.

[Khatovar]

That won't work. Nikita wants to be able to DPS and Interact with one button. Interact with target cannot be triggered from a macro, and as such can't be placed on an action bar. What they need is a means to be able to send different keys from the same key, since interact with target can only be called from a key, just like movement {forward, back, turn, strafe, jump}. They need to be able to send the key for interact with target on one press and call a macro on a subsequent press.

[Cptan]

I assume macro 1/sequence 1 is able to trigger the keybind of IWT, and macro 2/sequence2 goes to your dps cast rotation.

[Cptan]

since interact with target can only be called from a key, just like movement {forward, back, turn, strafe, jump}

hmm..... Did a Octopus google search, found not much info.... Will post if there is a solution to this.

[Ualaa]

Separate outputs on key down and key up, are only possible because the Warcraft Keyboard API acknowledges them as separate events.

If Blizzards API (which addons use) did not allow for events to be registered on press and/or release, then it would not register those events and no matter how we configured our boxing software -- one would be read and not the other.

It is a feature Blizzard specifically put into the game for addons to use, so you're not going to get into trouble when your software (which uses an addon, completely subject to Blizzards API, to generate the macros) can split events between press and release.




On spamming keys...
Sure you cannot macro IWT, with the Warcraft Macro Engine.

But you can keybind IWT to "4".
You can have a spell or macro on keys 1 through 3.
You can glue a popsicle stick across keys 1-4, and mash them all at once.

If an action is restricted to occur no more than once per time interval, such as every spell on the Global Cool Down... it will only fire off every so often, subject to when other actions have fired off.

Mind Freeze is off of the GCD.
We can freezly mash Howling Blast and Mind Freeze together (and if talented, Mind Freeze is Runic Power free... meaning it will be available to fire off on any press and then 10 seconds thereafter).
Only HB is on the GCD.

Interact With Target, like Mind Freeze, like /assist [target=focus], like "W" to move forward, like a lot of other actions is off of the GCD.
Meaning you can freely combine that keybind with another action as often as you like, and Blizzard does not mind this.
Under the current rules of the game, combining the IWT Keybind with another keystroke will not get you in trouble or subject your account to disciplinary action.




The key still being, everything you do is a result of something you push or release at the time it occurs.
Nothing is a result of something you pushed or released or clicked at some point previous to now.

If you search my post history, you'll find I've been using an IWT that has been integrated into my DPS spam sequences for close to a year and a half.
For eight months of the year, I'm often online for 12 hour stretches... so its not like Blizzard has not had opportunity to detect what I push and what it does.
I posted how to do this more than a year back, and can only assume others are using a similar technique.
No one has ever posted that they have been banned from use of IS Boxer (or other legitimate boxing softwares, at least to my knowledge).

Looking at the DK Manifesto (by Mosg2), it is assumed you will use IWT as an integrated part of your DPS.
The 4x DK + 1x Healer is probably the most popular team of the expansion.
The 4x Ret + 1x DK was probably the most popular team of the last expansion.
Both use IWT integrated into DPS Spam.
No one has been banned or suspended for this.
And a lot of users do precisely this.



As always use what you are comfortable using.

If Blizzard gives you a tool to use in their game, it is your option whether you want to use that tool or not.
If you are comfortable with it, then use it.
If you are not comfortable with it, then don't use it.

Bottom line.
It is a tool that Blizzard is okay with your using.
Decide if you want to take advantage of it, or not.

So far that means a boxing software such as HKN/IS Boxer, possibly others.
Or one of the addons that can send a different key output for Key Up and Key Down.