[EVE] Any EVE boxers out there?

[Los]

use evemonitor to make it into a windowed thingy! as i believe the normal client still doesnt do that?

Yarrr!

o7

[Voigtkampf]

Ok, thats it, been lurking these forums for a while now, but this topic lured me out in the open finally.

I was playing with the idea to box WoW for a long time, but busy life, loads of work and then decreased joy in WoW made me cut down on the game entirely the last summer. I was working 16 hours a day and raiding 4-5 days a week (even though I was a real hard core raider only for several months) and regularly fell asleep over my keyboard while the guild members chirped on TS in the late evening about how we are going to make the 5th attempt on this boss and try to remain the "best epic guild" on the server... :whistling: I am playing WoW again since last few weeks, but as completly casual fella, and even leveling some new toons on obscure new servers.

Anyway, nuff' was nuff', and I finally let it all go and devoted my time to EVE in a far greater fashion.

I won't tell about the beauties of EVE; if I want to play today, I will, if not, I won't, and need not to worry about DKP and falling behind. Money does matter in the game, and intelligent approach gets you somewhere. Most importantly, I as a one single player can bring down entire corporations if I feel like it. :thumbdown:

Now, I got 5 accounts and struggling hard NOT to get more. 8o But I am mostly running only 2 accounts at the same time, since I got characters in my own private corp and some major alliances out there, spread all over the galaxy. And yes, I even know folks from Roadkill and have at a given point supplied some Corporations there. Lot of trit in some titans that are being built up there in the north came from my stocks.

I'd love to start boxing EVE decently, I would very much appreciate any tips you got for me. I tried running several accounts on one PC, but even with the premium content turned off, I found to experience odd CTDs, especially when mining ice with 50 macrominers around me. Bradster, I love the look of your desktop, btw! Would you be as kind as to give me some tips on the PC configs of the rigs you got there? what would be a good config, able to run EVE smoothly, and even perhaps server as to box WoW eventually? I am not really interested in any key programs, just about the details on the rigs you got, how you connected them and so on.

Thank you in advance, mate! If you'd care to talk to me ingame, for what reason ever, find Voigtkampf and feel free to open convo. Same goes for all of you boxers out there! Cheers!

[Voigtkampf]

What, no cmments, no advice, no tips and hints? ;(

[donfran]

hmmm.... can I just sidetrack and ask abit.

Is there anything that make Eve Online more synergistic than say, WoW or EQ II ?

Like in WoW you control 5 chars and can do heroics etc. 5 shamans can pawn the BGs/ Arena.

What about Eve online? How does controlling multiple accounts help besides more firepower? Are you able to do specific maneuvers (combat or otherwise) that will help you utilise the synergy of having 5 accounts?

Hehe just curious

[Los]

well, depends but i guess that if you mine/trade/run missions/pvp there will always be a way to utilise more then 1 account?

allthough playing with 2+ might be very difficult in pvp, then again, set targets, press f1-f7 (head against keyboard method) will make all your hotties fire, guess you will have to find your own way of helping yourself by having more then 1 account

[Voigtkampf]

There are many ways on how to utilize several accounts in EVE.

Unlike WoW or many other MMO's out there, EVE has fully functional economy system wherein money really does matter. There is a demand for almost anything one can make or get from missions or killing NPC in asteroid belts. Since you lose ships, you need minerals to build new ones, or you need money to buy ships from the industrialists. Gun, missile launchers, countless modules, they all need to be crafted by players. The innovative conquering system of EVE allows vast regions of space to be conquered by players, their corporations and alliances. That so called 0.0 region is basically lawless, without the Concord NPC police and authority, its free for all, you can shoot and kill anyone. Why hold these regions, other than mindless PvP? Well, the most valuable ores in asteroid fields are found in 0.0 space, valuable moon minerals, much bigger rewards on the NPCs in belts, better mission agents who give more money and better rewards for the mission runners.

As for the use of multiple accounts, well, I'd say that PvP is least valuable option, IMHO ofc. EVE PvP is getting more and more about roaming gangs of 10, 20, 30 people - strength in numbers. Of course, you can quite easily go pirating in low sec and find many single targets, but, the possibility of loss of several ships in PvP is not really encouraging.

First place where you can use several accounts well is missioning. Level 4 missions are soloable with characters with proper skills, most of them, that is. EVE is all about time=money equation. With one character, depending on his/her skills, you can make, say, 10 million ISK per hour of missioning. Thats Empire missioning, in "safe space" where the Concord NPC police takes care of people attacking you unprovoked. Not always before they kill you, but thats another story, heh.
What useful here is, say, to run a mission with two or three accounts. There are different setups. For one, you can use the main char to "tank" and the second one to "heal" you, using remote shield or armor repair modules. Or you can use both of them to dish out DPS on the same target. More DPS; faster progress, more money earned. The third account would be used to loot the wrecks (wrecks drop modules which can be used or sold on market) and then salvage the wrecks (salvaging wrecks provides you with components that enable one to make rigs for ships that increase energy grid, shields, weapon damage). The beauty of this all is that the aggro system in EVE is nothing like WoW. You enter a mission and aggro a group, and they will hardly ever let go of you in order to attack your second char or even your third, salvaging char. Only need to take care of new incoming spawns and pick their aggro right there. If they attack the wrong guy, you can - mostly - warp out and leave the aggro to the main.

This means you cut down the missioning time maybe threefold, and by the time you completed mission, you are almost done with salvaging too.

Second, and for me even more valuable option is to mine. Now, one perfectly skilled miner with the best ship available and best modules can mine, in Empire, around some 10m per hour. Thats about the optimum figure. You can ahve some skills that will enhance your mining yield, but those work only if you are grouped in a fleet and all chars in the same system and the char with the, say, mining foreman/mining director skills is the fleet leader. Unlike WoW or some other MMOs where you can easily kill 20 mammoths and stuck their heads in your bag, in EVE the volume of materials have a significant meaning. So, basically, while you mine, your cargo fills up quickly, and you empty it to a space can. Now, you get your alt, and haul the ores to the station. Otherwise, you'd have to haul it with your main, which would mean docking to the station and emptying cargo hold and going back, or, going to station and changing into an industrial hauler and going back to your can. This leaves place open for ore thieves, gah, not so fun. Now, if you have two miners and one hauler, you can earn 20m per hour. And mining is basically the AFK gaming style. You set your lasers on a rock, empty cargo hold every few minutes (click and darg to can) and eventually haul the stuff to station. Minimum effort required.

Now, imagine mining in a relative safe 0.0 system. There, you can mine up to 50-60m per hour!!! Take that times two for two miners, damn, thats some sick money. Mind you, in EVE you can use ingame money to buy game time cards, 3 month gaming card costs 400m ISK. Plus, you can sell those GTCs for real money, and all of it is perfectly legal. I know of a guy who quit his job and is now earning his living playing EVE. And its all perfectly legal.

Now, there are other possibilities of using multiple accounts, like scouting for your main, opening cyno fields so your main can jump with the jump drive equipped ships, and many many other possibilities...

[Lorune]

I multiboxed eve is the past, for mining, and more recently for exploration. me and a friend run 5 acc's total and sniff out sites, and then bring in the firepower so to say

Anyways, i myself am in Razor Alliance at the moment, mostly doing industry related stuff.

[donfran]

There are many ways on how to utilize several accounts in EVE.

Unlike WoW or many other MMO's out there, EVE has fully functional economy system wherein money really does matter. There is a demand for almost anything one can make or get from missions or killing NPC in asteroid belts. Since you lose ships, you need minerals to build new ones, or you need money to buy ships from the industrialists. Gun, missile launchers, countless modules, they all need to be crafted by players. The innovative conquering system of EVE allows vast regions of space to be conquered by players, their corporations and alliances. That so called 0.0 region is basically lawless, without the Concord NPC police and authority, its free for all, you can shoot and kill anyone. Why hold these regions, other than mindless PvP? Well, the most valuable ores in asteroid fields are found in 0.0 space, valuable moon minerals, much bigger rewards on the NPCs in belts, better mission agents who give more money and better rewards for the mission runners.

As for the use of multiple accounts, well, I'd say that PvP is least valuable option, IMHO ofc. EVE PvP is getting more and more about roaming gangs of 10, 20, 30 people - strength in numbers. Of course, you can quite easily go pirating in low sec and find many single targets, but, the possibility of loss of several ships in PvP is not really encouraging.

First place where you can use several accounts well is missioning. Level 4 missions are soloable with characters with proper skills, most of them, that is. EVE is all about time=money equation. With one character, depending on his/her skills, you can make, say, 10 million ISK per hour of missioning. Thats Empire missioning, in "safe space" where the Concord NPC police takes care of people attacking you unprovoked. Not always before they kill you, but thats another story, heh.
What useful here is, say, to run a mission with two or three accounts. There are different setups. For one, you can use the main char to "tank" and the second one to "heal" you, using remote shield or armor repair modules. Or you can use both of them to dish out DPS on the same target. More DPS; faster progress, more money earned. The third account would be used to loot the wrecks (wrecks drop modules which can be used or sold on market) and then salvage the wrecks (salvaging wrecks provides you with components that enable one to make rigs for ships that increase energy grid, shields, weapon damage). The beauty of this all is that the aggro system in EVE is nothing like WoW. You enter a mission and aggro a group, and they will hardly ever let go of you in order to attack your second char or even your third, salvaging char. Only need to take care of new incoming spawns and pick their aggro right there. If they attack the wrong guy, you can - mostly - warp out and leave the aggro to the main.

This means you cut down the missioning time maybe threefold, and by the time you completed mission, you are almost done with salvaging too.

Second, and for me even more valuable option is to mine. Now, one perfectly skilled miner with the best ship available and best modules can mine, in Empire, around some 10m per hour. Thats about the optimum figure. You can ahve some skills that will enhance your mining yield, but those work only if you are grouped in a fleet and all chars in the same system and the char with the, say, mining foreman/mining director skills is the fleet leader. Unlike WoW or some other MMOs where you can easily kill 20 mammoths and stuck their heads in your bag, in EVE the volume of materials have a significant meaning. So, basically, while you mine, your cargo fills up quickly, and you empty it to a space can. Now, you get your alt, and haul the ores to the station. Otherwise, you'd have to haul it with your main, which would mean docking to the station and emptying cargo hold and going back, or, going to station and changing into an industrial hauler and going back to your can. This leaves place open for ore thieves, gah, not so fun. Now, if you have two miners and one hauler, you can earn 20m per hour. And mining is basically the AFK gaming style. You set your lasers on a rock, empty cargo hold every few minutes (click and darg to can) and eventually haul the stuff to station. Minimum effort required.

Now, imagine mining in a relative safe 0.0 system. There, you can mine up to 50-60m per hour!!! Take that times two for two miners, damn, thats some sick money. Mind you, in EVE you can use ingame money to buy game time cards, 3 month gaming card costs 400m ISK. Plus, you can sell those GTCs for real money, and all of it is perfectly legal. I know of a guy who quit his job and is now earning his living playing EVE. And its all perfectly legal.

Now, there are other possibilities of using multiple accounts, like scouting for your main, opening cyno fields so your main can jump with the jump drive equipped ships, and many many other possibilities...

/salute

Thank you that is exactly what I wanted to hear about the synergy of multiple accounts on EVE online.

I was hoping more for the synergy of precision flying and tactical accumen but I guess in most MMOs numbers just matter in the end anyway. (And skill)

Thanks,

[Voigtkampf]

You are welcome, Donfran.

Lorune, if you would be so kind to give me a hint what kind of software and hardware you are using for that multiscreensetup in your sig? Would that be possible with EVE? Would certainly make me a happy bunny, thats for sure! :thumbsup:

[Bradster]

A few of you contacted me in EVE requesting an invite, or wanted to know more information about the 0.0 area i'm in. So far I had one invited, another 2 are interested and last I heard was moving their stuff near by to join.

I haven;t been on much. Last weekend my internet was down as they were doing upgrades and spitting the node (Internet speed up and down is now doubled woot!) Then this week I had to switch to double shifts as the shit has hit the fan at work. I was going to logon the other day but the patch was going on. So for those that contacted me, I haven't forgot about you, life just happened that's all

Just finished the big project and should be home around 6-7pm which is a rare thing! I normally get off at 12am. I'll play for a few hours. Friday I have to work but I expect it to be a short day and then i'll be back to my normal play times. I've been so busy the only 2 things i've done is work and sleep. Sorry about the little communication.

-Brad