[WoW] major water drinking nerf coming in 2.4

[Mith]

Blizzard is also recognizing a market shift. In general the % of people playing online video games in a competitive manner is many many times larger than the people playing cooperatively. The fact they are putting more time into developing their competitive content reflects that they feel they can attract a larger customer base by catering to the competitive streak in people.

Damn the market for shifting thus. I personally have been a carebear since day 1, although my first 2 years of WoW were spent miserably being ganked by OP rogues on a PvP server (was playing priest/mage go figure). Personally, if blizzard is to keep my 60 bones/month they will need to balance the game for carebears like me. PvE servers are great for this, but not if the mechanics of the game are tweaked to favor a PvP environment.

[Vyndree]

There's a difference between botting/afk'ing BG's/arenas and doing things like buying high ranked arena teams to get more points per week.

Blue has said that arena team selling is ok (after all, you worked hard to get it to 2k+ rating, you should be able to profit off it). If you're playing at 3-4am so that you can group up against the other scrubs in blues/greens to avoid all the s3 people and get your points each week, that's fine too. Or maybe your s3 buddies will queue with you to make the odds better that you'll get your personal rating up too. That's ok by blizz -- they can't prevent you from playing games with whoever you want at whatever time you want.

BOTTING is particularly unacceptable. Most of us know that BG's are a complete timesink when you're going for your s1 pieces. In your blues/greens you're not likely to WIN many bg's. But botters get off with very little time invested for the same reward -- and worse, they don't contribute to the success of the team. It's like having an empty spot in your BG. They should definitely be reported if you see it.

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And you didn't screenshot - report them....... why?

I always report when I come across this activity in-game. This mage & warlock were discussing this in another game, with no proof available to Blizzard that these people were who I said they were - especially considering the different usernames. Blizzard doesn't like to ban without absolute proof of illegal activity. First, the risk of banning a legit player, and second, banning someone costs them money in future subscriptions.

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There's a difference between botting/afk'ing BG's/arenas and doing things like buying high ranked arena teams to get more points per week.

I wasn't implying they were the same, or that the rating selling was even illegal. I was just using that as another route people are using to get these welfare epics. People do pay for instance runs, but although I know it happens from time to time, I haven't come across that many people willing to pay an entire guild for raid runs/loot with such obvious frequency.

[Eteocles]

Every boe raid recipe I've seen so far has been boe but the mats aren't all boe...at least I think, Nether Vortexes are bop aren't they? And I know most of those take vortexes

[Electrissy]

Just a heads up. Another pointless aggravating PvE nerf to increase downtime just to fix an exploit by one class in the arena. WTG blizzard.

Damn, and I just got my feign death and drink macro working