Can anyone explain to me how DKP works?

[neux]

Quix, you have great friends, cherish them :-D

[Los]

No matter how you deal with the loot:

1. People will complain
2. People will find its 'unfair'
3. GIEF EPX PLX

Allthough after a few years, i can say the dkp bidding sucks, the rolling sucks even more, and loot on need base (he needs it more, he gets it) doesnt work at all since people dont see the bigger picture.

O well

[Monkofdoom]

Indeed, looting will never be fair to everyone - even if its a 5 man and your controlling them all !

[Tonuss]

Keep in mind that DKP systems can vary greatly. The simplest premise is that you get points for raid attendance, and you can spend those points on loot drops. But DKP systems are extremely customizable, from the manner in which points are gained to the methods for spending them, and whatever limitations can be placed on them.

A well-designed DKP system can eliminate many of the flaws/complaints against them. But any loot system will have its detractors. Officer assigned loot systems have to deal with accusations of favoritism/cronyism. Random roll systems can be very unfair (the old "player_A attended raids for weeks but player_B gets superEpic-01 on his first raid"). Need/Greed systems deal with accusations of lying or otherwise gaming the system (swapping in inferior loot to get a drop). Because DKP is so customizable, there is an endless number of ways for people to be unhappy with it. And poorly designed or managed DKP systems are a recipe for disaster.

Find some friends and build a guild of your own, then loot isn't much of a problem. That's what I did, anyway.

[Eteocles]

This is why I stay in Dark Angels and have turned down offers from higher-progressed guilds like Dark Council and the like...the majority of us are tight-knit DA that've been there for awhile(3years myself, from MC Raid #1), so other than a few minor rules(Main-specs get priority, Main chars get priority if alts are present and i'ts an UPgrade, not a SIDEgrade), we go by the same 2 rules mentioned earlier: Master Loot Bosses and Roll if you need and will use it. It's worked out well so far except for one recruited lock who took a ton of loot without thought for others, pissed off half the guild then jumped ship at first opportunity with half our 25man loot. But other than that it's worked well, everyone is geared up fairly well to the point that it comes down to people actually paying a-fucking-ttention(which has been less than common till last night's First Hydross kill)

I agree giving tanks priority is a bad thing..but at the same time it's necessary to survive half the fights. If the tank dies everyone else's gear means jack shit lol; we had 2 tanks we prioritized gearwise; one quit tanking and is now a Huntard with a Priest alt and refuses to tank, the other left guild when we yelled at him for changing our strategy for Lurker for no fucking good reason at all, and purposely putting the Offtank not only out of range of his healers but smack fucking dab in the middle of the melee dps, getting them cleaved and destroyed in the process. Kinda went off on a rant there but it's technically still related to the convo

In summary, my opinion is that DKP fucking sucks and none of the system variants, be it classic DKP, zero-sum, or suicide kings etc, are worth the trouble if you can muster up half a fucking brain cell and some fairness in distribution. Yeah, people're gonna get boned on a few drops, each boss only drops so many items and may end up dropping an item 20 people want maybe once, get the fuck over it and find something else

Related funny story: I waited 8 months for Prince to drop his goddamn dagger, never missed a single fucking Kara raid despite being in 25man gear. It never dropped. ZA comes out. Eagle boss drops very nice 1h caster mace, I win it. THE VERY NEXT GODDAMN PRINCE WE KILL DROPS HIS GODDAMN DAGGER. I was a very sad, very pissed Boomkin. lol