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    I think it's a great idea to have CL as hisec support for CTR, and CTR as a wormhole alternative to those in CL who want some excitement! I would have to disagree on the point of putting them in alliance together though, as that would make any wardecs potentially a problem for both corps. I wouldn't want a wormhole altercation to turn into a problem for CL in hisec.

    As for numbers and types of skills needed, the numbers are anywhere from 1 to 5 I would say to start (unless you're bringing in a guy strictly for PI). You have to be able to run for cover in a moments notice, and the more ships you have out of a POS shield the more you have to stress about warping to safety before you get jumped (and also the more potential for personal loss of equipment). If you've never done anything in a wormhole or 0.0 before, bring out 3 max.

    As for skills, probing is the number one REQUIRED skill for wormhole. If you get caught in a hole without the ability to find your way out then you're pretty much screwed and will have to self destruct to get out. Secondly, don't underestimate the sleeper rats. These are 0.0 rats on crack, steroids, and with omni tanks and omni damage. They all armor tank, ewar, neut, and will eat you alive if you get in over your head. Bring ships (and the skills to fit them) that you can afford to lose, but that can also survive the damage (passive shielded drakes to start). Third, is the regular stuff: mining, gas mining, hacking, and archeology. Bring this in at any level you want, but the ability to mine in some form or fashion would be the minimum I would say.

    For the minimum numbers required, it really is easier to outgrow a wormhole than it is to have too small of a team for one. Once you do a site it may takes days or a week or more to spawn another, so the faster you do things the faster they run out. If you're interested in wormhole life just to check it out bring in one or two guys and live for a week and see if you think you need more or the hole can support more. Since not everyone will be on at the same time sometimes you may need multiple toons to solo a combat site or you may find yourself without something to solo. That's just one of those things you gotta figure out on the fly.
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    While I'm too unreliable to participate in the WH stuff at the moment, I'd be happy to join CL to support y'all via taxes. Great idea, that.

    Regarding the alliance/wardec thing, can someone gimme a quickie synopsis of what that means for hisec missioners?

    [edit] Nevermind. Looks like wardec means free-for-all even in hisec space. That sucks. On a related note, is there a warning that pops up when a wardec happens or do you have to manually keep checking the corp panel?
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    You get 24 hours notice if your corp/alliance gets wardec'ed. Basically if you're a hisec corp that can't be bothered with fighting just have everyone leave the corp when you get wardec'ed.
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    Everyone in the Corp gets a mail from CONCORD (or another 'official' corp) announcing that war will start in 24 hours.

    Then everyone gets another mail 24 hours later saying that war has started.

    It also takes 24 hours for a war to stop, with a simialr set of mails.

    It costs a million ISK a week to wardec someone so people don't usually do it unless they're after something - a POS position, mining rights, shits and giggles, etc

    One of the reasons I quite EVE the first time was because I'd joined a corp that had a permanent war with another and I got ganked moving some stuff around in an undustrial in hisec - biggest loss was a set of +5 implants - I'd only been playing for a few months so I couldn't replace them and the corp was highly unsympathetic.
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    CTR introduces Project Alpha 112:

    We have set up a POS in a class 1 static highsec wormhole. As our Alpha project this will be a "training wheels" expedition with definite longterm potential for PI (PI is awesome in wormholes for those that don't know). Our POS is basically unkillable as long as it is fueled because c1 entrances don't allow anything larger than a battlecruiser (20mil mass) through. Currently there are a slew of sites available for members to do as well as some offlined POS killing to be done in the system. As you can imagine location and specific info is on a need to know basis only for members of CTR, but if you want to get some wormhole experience this is a great time to do it. This project will also give us a better idea of interest for wormhole expeditions in the community.
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    So where has everyone disappeared off to? We have 2 grav sites in the wormhole not getting mined currently, and numerous other sites! Come join in.
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    Sorry mate, away at work until tomorrow . Will make sure to log on tomorrow morning and when you get online you can show me the way . Only using T1 strip miners on retrievers at the moment but its a start. Is there anything we need bringing in? I will be bringing 4 retrievers with 4000m3 cargo space, so if we need some small things I can bring em along.....?

    Are there any shuttles in the WH for quickly bringing ships in or should I bring 1 along for each toon?

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    I brought some extra shuttles in, but you're welcome to as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grondir View Post
    Sorry mate, away at work until tomorrow . Will make sure to log on tomorrow morning and when you get online you can show me the way . Only using T1 strip miners on retrievers at the moment but its a start. Is there anything we need bringing in? I will be bringing 4 retrievers with 4000m3 cargo space, so if we need some small things I can bring em along.....?

    Are there any shuttles in the WH for quickly bringing ships in or should I bring 1 along for each toon?
    Retrievers are actually perfect since you couldn't bring anything larger in mining wise. Entry hole is limited to 20,000,000kg mass ships or smaller.

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