Should we talk about buffs?

[Zappy]

The same buff is overwritten from different classes. When doing instances as a bard, I'll see a cleric give us the +endurance buff, and if I give the fanfare for buff, it'll overwrite his, and his will overwrite mine if he recasts. It's not horrible as most classes have enough buffs that you can switch it up.... ie.. Bards have fanfares and can only choose one per bard, so if someone is providing +endurance, then use the fanfare of power, etc.

[Alemi]

I guess im more worried about different classes etc. Archon and bard both have a -10% ability cost aura. Lots of o different classes have endurance buffs, or str buffs, etc.

Anthem of Fervor is a 1 hour buff - the archon equivalent isn't an aura it's a passive self buff based on how many auras you run - and they do stack on the Archon.

Things that I know Archon overwrites?

Earthen Barrage will overwrite any crit buffs even if they're longer duration since the buff is by far, the best crit buff in game, 30% crit for 8 seconds, 30 sec cd.
Burning Purpose overwrites other cast time reduction buffs.
Volcanic Bomb will overwrite more powerful spell damage buffs, which is a bug.
Shared Vigor will overwrite other endurance buffs if talented (which you want to do to make sure you get your passives for # of auras run)
Arcane Aegis will do the same as above.

[Flight]

I guess im more worried about different classes etc. Archon and bard both have a -10% ability cost aura. Lots of o different classes have endurance buffs, or str buffs, etc.

These -10% ability cost buff of the Bard will stack purely on the Archon with the Archons buff based on how many Auras you have running (its not as high as 10%). The party wide buff of the Bard will not stack with the party wide buff of the Chloromancer (they are both 10%).

I was thinking of the Bard's Group Endurance Buff, but I could be mistaken.

Bards Endurance buff will not stack with most Endurance buffs but will stack with the Archon buff. A number of Archon buffs stack where no others do, largely where the buff is a negative to the Archon and a positive to the rest of the party.

It's a pretty dumb system because so many souls get an Endurance buff, some at considerable point investment cost, but they don't stack.

It's worth considering that the Bard Endurance buff is slightly more than everyone elses (eg 26 endurance vrs 20 endurance in low to mid 20s) but it's an Anthem so if you have a mixed party you are best off going with another Anthem and using a different souls Endurance buff.


Many melee souls buffs stack, whereas the vast majority of caster buffs don't. It's one of the major reasons why melee is generally much more powerful compared to Mages at the moment.