Patch 4.1 and DK+4 Rets

[BrothelMeister]

If a character needs healing, ill pop word of glory on it regardless of how many charges a paladin has.

1 charge on 1 paladin is 12-13k healing, so 3 charges x4 rets is 150k, which is always overkill.

1 charge of Holy power per pally per 4 sec, but divine purpose still gives 30% chance for every ability to give a free holy power ability worth 3 charges, which is the true source of healing capability, since this effect is rarely used for offense.

This will basically take my maybe 1-2 heals per sec down to only 4 every 20 sec.

[remanz]

while I wouldn't say the combo is dead because of this, the boxing combo is indeed in trouble. Due to lack of contents to play. There are not much else to do other than doing random heroic everyday, and I can only do half of the heroics. So I have to pray it is the ones that I can do. I think I might be also done for this iteration.

[Fat Tire]

while I wouldn't say the combo is dead because of this, the boxing combo is indeed in trouble. Due to lack of contents to play. There are not much else to do other than doing random heroic everyday, and I can only do half of the heroics. So I have to pray it is the ones that I can do. I think I might be also done for this iteration.

I know I am going to get ripped for saying this but I never understood the reason for playing 5 - I mean I understand heroics, but then thats just it, they are heroics. If people were progressing thru bosses only then could I see it.

As for pvp 2s/3s give the same rewards/points. /shrug

Also you can get to 2k+ with ease in 2s, currently playing 2 blood DKs can get almost anyone 2000 or higher. Currently 2300 with 2 blood dks(without wintrading). Whew knew!

Its retarded, honestly , how easy it is. Only 1 problem if for some reason you cant kill one of them then it will be a draw unless you or they leave. Certain comps can kite you a little but I cannot be killed as both blood dks have sooo much self healing.

Play 2s and have some killer fun with some weird comps.

[pinotnoir]

I know I am going to get ripped for saying this but I never understood the reason for playing 5 - I mean I understand heroics, but then thats just it, they are heroics. If people were progressing thru bosses only then could I see it.

As for pvp 2s/3s give the same rewards/points. /shrug

Also you can get to 2k+ with ease in 2s, currently playing 2 blood DKs can get almost anyone 2000 or higher. Currently 2300 with 2 blood dks(without wintrading). Whew knew!

Its retarded, honestly , how easy it is. Only 1 problem if for some reason you cant kill one of them then it will be a draw unless you or they leave. Certain comps can kite you a little but I cannot be killed as both blood dks have sooo much self healing.

Play 2s and have some killer fun with some weird comps.

My 2's Frost DK's hit a wall at 1600. Can you link your blood DK because I thought about specing them blood for the healing at one point?

[Multibocks]

I know I am going to get ripped for saying this but I never understood the reason for playing 5 - I mean I understand heroics, but then thats just it, they are heroics. If people were progressing thru bosses only then could I see it.

As for pvp 2s/3s give the same rewards/points. /shrug

Also you can get to 2k+ with ease in 2s, currently playing 2 blood DKs can get almost anyone 2000 or higher. Currently 2300 with 2 blood dks(without wintrading). Whew knew!

Its retarded, honestly , how easy it is. Only 1 problem if for some reason you cant kill one of them then it will be a draw unless you or they leave. Certain comps can kite you a little but I cannot be killed as both blood dks have sooo much self healing.

Play 2s and have some killer fun with some weird comps.

I do 5s for the challenge. It's a lot more difficult for me to beat a team of 5.

[Kruschpakx4]

5s or doesnt matter

[Zappy]

wasn't that team killed with the resilience buff in early 2010?

Last season in WOTLK, they were still a strong team and very gear dependent. There were a few that managed over 2k in BG9, and a handful of us that were over 1800. The problem with that makeup is all about what you go up against. Some combos, no matter what you do, will be able to endlessly kite you, which is even worse in cata.

how many times do you use WoG now per 20s?

Depends... If you're taking heavy damage, you'll be using it a lot more often. While not optimal, even a 1 HP charge x4 can yields 25-50k HP of healing not including eternal glory. IMO, what made this comp viable was Eternal Glory and Glyph of the Long Word. Glyph of the long word was awesome in the sense that you wouldn't overheal nearly as often through consistent damage. Eternal Glory helped for either that spiky damage, or when you need to top off other team members.

In heroics, you'd have a hell of a time keeping your tank up if you can only heal him once every 20 seconds. Same thing in arenas, if more than two people are getting nuked at the same time, Eternal Glory made it possible to heal both. I'm afraid that losing Eternal Glory is enough to cripple this team, let alone a long CD on word.

I did the bare minimum for arenas, and had an absolute horrible time - something like a 20% win ration, but never spent the time to get all the bloodthirsty gear. With only 2k resilence, I could feel it getting easier from each upgrade, but I had lost my patience with trying to gear them up. 5s queues and matchups totally sucks. I could deal with just about everything else I hate about cataclysm, but this was the last straw. Last season was fun in the sense that you had to work hard for the rating in 5s as a boxer. Queue up and you'd get lots of variety all night and fast queues.

/rant on
This season has turned into a whole new level of exploiters. People will pay someone to get a high 2s or 3s rating, then they will play 1 game on that team to keep it active for the week and get their games in on different teams exploiting the system once again.

Then you have bgs - I despise the fact that 6 years later (okay, probably the past 4-5 for bgs) that blizzard cannot address the AFK issue. I used to enjoy bgs, but there is absolutely nothing worse than getting into a WSG match and to see 3 people afk - what makes it worse is that there are times where they were in my previous bg. Why is it the players have to force a player afk? What's worse is that you can have dickheads in the bg that report people afk who aren't. This issue has plagued bgs from the day they introduced the honor grind and they need a solid fix. IMO, they should flag the account as an AFKer, then put all the AFKers in a BG together. LOL
/rant off

[BrothelMeister]

I think most of us here enjoy the contest of 1-2 ppl against 5 that 5v5 brings.

We multibox because its a hobby and its fun, not because its the best way to get gladiator.

[Kruschpakx4]

I think most of us here enjoy the contest of 1-2 ppl against 5 that 5v5 brings.

We multibox because its a hobby and its fun, not because its the best way to get gladiator.

well playing 2s is perhaps better than 5s to increase you max cp/wekk but anyway 2s doesnt even give titles so 5s is the way to go

[Fat Tire]

well playing 2s is perhaps better than 5s to increase you max cp/wekk but anyway 2s doesnt even give titles so 5s is the way to go

Meh, titles are not a big deal. One of my dks has the perm s5 title and I dont even wear my Deadly G 99% of the time. Just for the fact that if I get beat sometimes people come on my server and whisper/trade "LOL I beat you", "You must have EBay'd that title" . Titles are over rated.