Yeah well,. i got quite high exp in arena soling, got 2k2 on my resto shammy as of this moment, and had 2k+ as feral. and working on my DK atm. I would say that i'm in the higher end of the pvp skilled ppl on my server. I wont even considure 5s as of the quees and the moeny it cost. 3s is my intrest basicly. i want to play alone with 3 chrs same class and i would need to see some proffs of ppl gaining 2k+ boxing in cata for me to be intrested in geting back into boxing. If not then i keep it as a good memery of the good old days when boxing was awsome hehe :P