Frost DKs rotation

[remanz]

Did you put obliterate on a different key spam or something ?

I'd imagine HB and OB can't be spammed in the same key otherwise HB would always go off first. and then you can't OB.

Same issue in the current 1key BS/HB/NS spam. 1 blood strike turns the next blood rune into death rune. But chances are this death rune will be used for blood strike again, which is not what we want. We want all death rune to be used as frost rune , or at least unholy rune as NS.

[Toned]

Use the setup where you send multiple downpresses then your release is howling blast... This prioritizes howling blast and you always use death runes for howling blasts.

[remanz]

That merely "tries" to send HB more often than anything else. It doesn't make sure when your blood strike turned death rune is ready , you will use HB. When death rune is turned, you might be in your "down state" and doing blood strike again since you are spamming.

[Ualaa]

Howling Blast hits 100% as hard, on the actual target.
And provides snare + cast speed penalty, to everyone within 10 yards of that target.

Pretty decent advantages, even if the damage isn't there.
A 40% reduction, makes for less pressure to heal several targets.
But it still softens up several at once.
And the initial target, or the switch target has Necrotic Strikes making the heals less effective.

[Mosg2]

The problem with Obliterate proccing free Howling Blasts is that there's no way to effectively control it so that you can just spam one button and make use of the free procs. If you're just weighting Obliterate then you end up with a wonky rotation.

As it stands now and on the PTR, the single target damage you do via Necrotic Strike, Howling Blast and Frost Strike is comparable to what a solo player accomplishes by managing the procs and using Obliterate.

Regarding the group damage--On live I have many games where I swap targets and my new target is at less than 50% health. Even with two healers it's damn hard to keep a person up under the 4 DK assault. No healer can effectively keep up your burst target plus the secondary/tertiary that's getting hammered by Howling Blasts. Even losing 60% of that damage on the secondary targets does not phase me--Now instead of being at 40-50% when I swap to him he'll be at 60-70? Tops? That's still *damn* good considering how much single target damage you're doing.

If I could conceive of a way to one-button mash and have it Obliterate and Howling Blast smartly I'd give it a try. As it stands the dps gain doesn't make up for the efficiency you lose by having to think about it.

[remanz]

Agreed here.

hb/bs/ns spam does a little bit less than OB + proc HB on single target dummy. But It does more when you can hit more than 1 target which is like 99% of the case in arena. Your opponents can't be all perfectly spread out. Not to mention hb/bs/ns spam is so easy to fit into a 1 button spam.

With that said, I see OB is probably worth using though. Meaning just throw it into the rotation, if it goes off, good for you. If it doesn't, HB/NS goes off is ok too. When killing machine procs, it is better to OB than to FS. Taking OB talent doesn't make you lose much in the unholy tree.

[Toned]

That merely "tries" to send HB more often than anything else. It doesn't make sure when your blood strike turned death rune is ready , you will use HB. When death rune is turned, you might be in your "down state" and doing blood strike again since you are spamming.

After 15mins of spamming my dps key... I had 0 death runes used on anything but Howling Blast.

Tweak your Custom Lag Tolerance... When I had the number matching my latency I had a few blood strikes sneak through, but when I set it to 200ms (2x my normal 100ms latency) I didn't have a single one go through, and had a dps gain because of this.

[remanz]

Thats good to know. Stuff spammed faster than GCD doesn't make sense anyway. Put those off GCD skills into the macro. and write isboxer steps with GCD in mind.

If I know which skill just got fired off, it will open up a lot of new possibilities.

[Negativ1337]

Put Howling Blast on the first one (Keybind A).
Put Frost Strike on two of them (B and C).
Put Blood Strike on one of them.
Put Necrotic Strike (Plague Strike, if you're not 83 yet) on one.
Put Hungering Cold on one.

With this do you mean:
Howling Blast on 1 hotkey, on all chars
Froststrike on 1 hotkey on 2 toons, Blood strike on 1 toon and necrotic strike on 1 toon
Hungering Cold on 1 hotkey on 1 toon?

Or Howling Blast on all
Frost Strike on all
Blood Strike on all
Necrotic Strike on all
Hungering Cold on all on 5 different hotkeys?

It doesn't makes sence to me to only use necrotic strike on one character, since its a really nice debuff
And i wont waste any runic power on my slaves that wont use froststrike?

Kind regards,

Negativ1337

[Ualaa]

Every toon will HB on key down.

Every toon will attempt to mash six keys on key up.
The six keys are: HB, FS, FS, BS, NS, HC.

Pretty much taken straight from Mosg2's manifesto.