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    Default Mosg2's DK Manifesto

    http://www.justin.tv/mosg2/b/274564908

    Instead of trying to type it all out I livestreamed my Manifesto for the DK's. Please bear with me as I've been up for 20 hours and I'm exhausted.

    The DK conversation has been taking place in 3-4 different threads in varying areas on the forums, so I just put this in the main forums. If it needs moved, so be it

    In any case, enjoy and I look forward to the discussion to follow!
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    Great job explaining some things man.

    This is def the team i'm running, i actually just hopped off my druids to my dks to have them finished to 80.
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    Great job on the video.
    Let me see if I understand your rotation technique for you DK's

    One button that spams in order like steps each key in the rotation.
    i.e. 1 presses 2 then 1 again presses 3 then 1 again presses 4 etc...

    Is that correct or am i way off?

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    Ya, over the past week I came to basically the same conclusion as you. This team will be a wrecking ball. I'm really interested in how you setup your push down and release dps setup. I'm also interested in how you toggle IWT click to move off and on as you mentioned I'm still a pretty big newbie when it comes to setting up ISboxer macros.

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    A little confused with Necrotic Strikes, which you say will be applied approximately 8 times in every 10 second window.

    You're basically staggering them, so they're evenly spaced.
    And then going Howling Blast and Frost Strike.
    With the Mindfreeze thrown in every 2.5 seconds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercbeast View Post
    I'm really interested in how you setup your push down and release dps setup. I'm also interested in how you toggle IWT click to move off and on as you mentioned I'm still a pretty big newbie when it comes to setting up ISboxer macros.

    Create an Action Target Group, call it Melee.
    Add all of your Melee toons to this group.



    Now make a new mapped key (I put mine in the General Keymap).
    Call it Melee IWT.
    No hotkey, nothing in advanced.
    One step, Actions:
    Send (Your warcraft IWT keybind) to the current window.



    Modify whichever mapped keys you use in the FTL DPS Keymap.
    In my case, I've modified DPS 1 through DPS 3.

    By default we have:
    Hotkey: 1
    Steps: 1
    Actions:
    - Do Mapped Key: FTL Assist Me, Target: Current Window
    - Send "1" to all windows.

    We want to change this a little.
    Right click on Steps and add a second step.
    Set the mapped key to execute a step on press and release.

    Steps 1
    Actions:
    - Do Mapped Key: FTL Assist Me, Target: Current Window
    - Do Mapped Key: Melee IWT, Target: Group (All Of) Melee [or whatever you called the ATG, from the first step.]

    Step 2
    Actions:
    - Do Mapped Key: FTL Assist Me, Target: Current Window
    - Send "1" to all windows.



    Now we need to make a Toggle Macro, for the Melee IWT mapped key.

    Create a mapped key (I put mine in General).
    Call it Melee IWT Toggle.
    Give it two steps.
    Give it a hotkey, I use G6 (on my G15 keyboard).
    Advanced, will be left alone.

    Step 1
    Actions:
    - Pop Up Text, Current Window, Melee IWT Disabled
    - Keymap Actions >> Mapped Key State Action >> General Keymap >> Melee IWT disabled (Target: All windows)

    Step 2
    Actions:
    - Pop Up Text, Current Window, Melee IWT Enabled
    - Keymap Actions >> Mapped Key State Action >> General Keymap >> Melee IWT enabled (Target: All windows).



    This gets us...

    IWT is spammed automatically, just by using our normal DPS Keys.
    At least the ones which we've modified.
    The IWT is only sent to members of our Melee group.

    If we really wanted, we could have additional mapped keys, which would add or remove toons from this group.
    The same principle could be used for a healer group, and our healer repeater region could target the healer ATG instead of sending the click to a specific toon.

    We can also toggle the IWT off, via the last mapped key.
    So when you don't want the toons to IWT spam, hit the hotkey once.
    And now your DPS is normal, without IWT.
    DPS 1... will still call the mapped key for IWT, but since it is disabled nothing happens, on that step.
    You'll still get the "1" sent to all windows, after first assisting the active character.
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    @Ualaa:
    That's exactly how my IWT keys work. PvP keyset has IWT on all keypresses, PvE does not. I then just have a toggle button.

    As to how my DPS key works, let me try and explain in more detail:

    When I press Spacebar down, it sends IWT and F9 to my DK's. F9 is HB. On release of Spacebar it sends IWT and Shift-F9, Alt-F9, Ctrl-F9, Shift/Alt-F9, Shift/Alt/Ctrl-F9, and Ctrl/Alt-F9 to the DK's. Those buttons are more HB's, Frost Strikes, and the Plague Strike/Blood Strike castsequence.

    I then vary the number of times the same ability appears on the Modifier+F9 series on my action bar so that an ability is "preferred" more or less. For instance, HB is on downpress PLUS two of them are on release so that HB should, almost without exception, go off before any other ability. Then there are two Frost Strikes and only one PS/BS macro--This is because I would always rather FS than PS/BS due to Runic Empowerment.

    My Mind Freeze works like this: I have a 4-step key that gets pressed every time I hit Spacebar down. However, it has the "Only advance to next step after XX seconds" box clicked so that no matter how fast I spam it, it will only go to the next step until 2.5 seconds have elapsed. This works because Mind Freeze is off the GCD and costs zero RP--So, I get a MF every 2.5-2.6 seconds (I spam Spacebar 2.5 times a second or so).

    It's 5:32am and I just got up because my wife woke up with a cramp in her leg haha. I hope I was coherent enough--I'll check back in in a few hours

    Edit: I am going to find a way with ISBoxer to make it prefer Necrotic Strike but still alternate it a bit so that over a period of say, 30+ seconds one character is always doing NS every GCD without having it go in clumps--ie, everyone opens with HB, HB, and then NS. I want 3x HB/1 NS, 3x HB/1 NS, 3x FS/1 NS etc etc. I'll figure something out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosg2 View Post
    @Ualaa:


    When I press Spacebar down, it sends IWT and F9 to my DK's. F9 is HB. On release of Spacebar it sends IWT and Shift-F9, Alt-F9, Ctrl-F9, Shift/Alt-F9, Shift/Alt/Ctrl-F9, and Ctrl/Alt-F9 to the DK's. Those buttons are more HB's, Frost Strikes, and the Plague Strike/Blood Strike castsequence.
    IS the shift f9, alt f9, ctrl f9 etc spam, are those subsequent steps or all one step.?

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    Really good job on explaining things. Would be really cool to see this team in action.

    Though I kinda don't have the energy to level another team anymore lol. NS stacking and Chain Death Grip. The DKs looking good.

    Running healer as main and let alts IWT, this does have a problem though. Say the paladin stay back, I (the other team that you are facing) can turn a sharp corner behind a pillar and stay closed to the pillar, IWT would run straight line. and you won't be able to get me. You have to either quickly switch to a DK lead or run the paladin in front (probably not gonna do this). The good thing is that you got death grip. You can grip them into the open area.

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    Very interesting. Your video was excellent. I think I might jump on this bandwagon and give it a crack!

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