hard time deciding class make up to begin with...

[Mac]

I've been reading and interacting in some other posts trying to get this decided. But it seems to be a little difficult based on trying to leverage what I have. So I'll put this out to see if you experts can help direct me. I am trying to think of a way to leverage the 70s that I currently have if possible in order to do mostly PVE instance farming, but I guess I don't mind replacing any of the toons I have for "the team". If I have to level up 5 new toons , I will enjoy it anyway. I don't know much about pali or shamy. I'm currently very weak in understanding the macros and key mapping and stuff I'm sure this is going to be VERY challenging for me at this beginning level. I'm on a pvp server, so I would like to be able to handle ganks as much as possible in my group also.

I currently have:
- lvl 70 4/5 T4 Feral Druid tank main that I really enjoy playing.
- lvl 70 Shadow Priest decked out in full S1 gear that I just got geared up to attempt doing arenas on. He used to be my main as raid healer pre-tbc , but got bored healing and just used him for xmutes and pots after tbc came out.
- 58 rogue I'm leveling with my gf who has a 60 Boomkin now, she will most likely respec resto soon. ( I only mention this because she probably will fill in my multi-box group on pve/pvp runs when she is available, but I'm not counting on her being there all of the time so I need to think about heals for the team.)

Standard PVE groups look like tank , heals, 3 dps. I'm thinking I could use my Druid for tank, S.Priest for (weak) heals, and three dps that I can't figure out (3mage/3lock/2 mage-1lock/2 lock -1 mage/ 3 shamy/ ). I made a pali just in case I should replace my druid tank with the pali to make it easier if it is in fact easier, but I really am not sure where to go with this at this point. any suggestions ?

TIA
Mac

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well from a pve perspective.... hands down the best DPS class is a destruction warlock, 0/21/40.

Druid will work good for a single target tank; palladin works better for group tanking and less micro-managing.

S.Priest will not cut it for healing any heroics. Period. Respec him Holy for PoMending fun (tank to life-tap to tank). Alternatively, you could use the S. Priest to feed mana to your locks, marginally increase healing (enough to support a life-tap every now and then) and increase the locks damage I believe.

You already have a decently geared Tank.. which makes it hard to justify rolling a new tank. Although for a boxer, a pally is a no-brainer IMHO.
Anyhow, I suggest warlock x 3, convert S.Priest to healer or warlock x 2, and roll another healer.

[Mac]

Thank you for the reply.

well from a pve perspective.... hands down the best DPS class is a destruction warlock, 0/21/40.

I'm not familiar with locks, but always wanted one. I read that they should be affliction until the time they get felguard, than should be heavy in the demonology spec, so I was interested to see your comment saying destruction is best. Can you link a destruction spec that reflects the numbers you've provided 0/21/40 ( sorry, I never know where people are applying points when they just refer to a spec with the numbers)?

Druid will work good for a single target tank; palladin works better for group tanking and less micro-managing.

I can multi mobs fine with my druid under normal circumstances, 1,2,3 mobes are easy, after that it can get get tricky depending on the situation, people don't usually die when I'm tanking, but I find its a lot of work keeping control of more then 3 in light CC situations. So, with all of the input here on the boards about ease of tanking with a Pali as it relates to multi-boxing, I will probably roll one to see if it really makes a difference. I'm so used to tanking on my druid, I figured to make him the main toon I was driving and have the ranged and healer be the drones. If a pali is that much better for multi-boxing, I will be happy to roll one. I guess we will find out how much truth there is to that from a druid tank perspective. I would look forward to being able to pot without shifting lol...

S.Priest will not cut it for healing any heroics. Period. Respec him Holy for PoMending fun (tank to life-tap to tank). Alternatively, you could use the S. Priest to feed mana to your locks, marginally increase healing (enough to support a life-tap every now and then) and increase the locks damage I believe.

You already have a decently geared Tank.. which makes it hard to justify rolling a new tank. Although for a boxer, a pally is a no-brainer IMHO.
Anyhow, I suggest warlock x 3, convert S.Priest to healer or warlock x 2, and roll another healer.

Sorry, I didn't understand your "(tank to life-tap to tank)" comment? Agreed that S.priest won't cut it healing heroics. They do contribute to lock dmg and are good mana batteries, but I think the mana issue is a secondary concern. If the targets drop fast mana wo'nt be the concern. Which leads me to think drop the spriest for the third lock ...or mage for cc, drinks and ports?

It would seem a no-brainer to re-spec my priest holy in that case, but he has very crude + heal gear atm and I've been so stuck on keeping him dmg for pvp that its hard to consider switching him back to holy, but he may have to take one for the team. Since I'm considering rolling a pali tank for this project, maybe I'll roll a holy priest too *shudder* . Holy priest party heals seem like would be the best idea for multi boxing. I think that trumps the benefits of single target heals of pali or druid , but I may be wrong about that. Can someone comment why they would think another healing class other then a priest would be better for a pve multi-box team?

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It would seem a no-brainer to re-spec my priest holy in that case, but he has very crude + heal gear atm and I've been so stuck on keeping him dmg for pvp that its hard to consider switching him back to holy, but he may have to take one for the team. Since I'm considering rolling a pali tank for this project, maybe I'll roll a holy priest too *shudder* . Holy priest party heals seem like would be the best idea for multi boxing. I think that trumps the benefits of single target heals of pali or druid , but I may be wrong about that. Can someone comment why they would think another healing class other then a priest would be better for a pve multi-box team?

Since you already have a lvl 70 tank and priest, I'd respec holy and start with those two. A mage is very handy for AoE/ports/vending, lock for soulstone/pets, and shaman for totems/chain lit/heal. I don't think you can go wrong with any combination of those three, athough 3 of the same would be easiest to handle.
As for another healing class outside a priest, I thought a 2x paladin / 3x dps set would be fun. A great AoE tank combined with extra aura & buffs from a fantastic single target healer, followed by.. 3 shaman for totems & chain lit/heals. All 5 would be in mail or plate, so very little squishiness.

[Zseth]

It would seem a no-brainer to re-spec my priest holy in that case, but he has very crude + heal gear atm and I've been so stuck on keeping him dmg for pvp that its hard to consider switching him back to holy, but he may have to take one for the team. Since I'm considering rolling a pali tank for this project, maybe I'll roll a holy priest too *shudder* . Holy priest party heals seem like would be the best idea for multi boxing. I think that trumps the benefits of single target heals of pali or druid , but I may be wrong about that. Can someone comment why they would think another healing class other then a priest would be better for a pve multi-box team?

Since you already have a lvl 70 tank and priest, I'd respec holy and start with those two. A mage is very handy for AoE/ports/vending, lock for soulstone/pets, and shaman for totems/chain lit/heal. I don't think you can go wrong with any combination of those three, athough 3 of the same would be easiest to handle.
As for another healing class outside a priest, I thought a 2x paladin / 3x dps set would be fun. A great AoE tank combined with extra aura & buffs from a fantastic single target healer, followed by.. 3 shaman for totems & chain lit/heals. All 5 would be in mail or plate, so very little squishiness.

*facepalm*



THIS IS THE GENERAL FORUM



BEGINNERS HAVEN THAT WAY



*sigh*

[Sanctume]

So you have
Account 1.70 Druid Tank
Account 2.70 Priest in S1 & Shadow gear
and 3 more new accounts?
Account 3
Account 4

Account 5


I like the idea of creating "alts" in each account that does different thing then my main. And each character would have a Primary role, and Secondary role (tank, healer, dps).

So, Account 1 have a Druid tank 1st, and Healer / Boomkin, 2nd. I'd roll a DPS caster class like a mage/warlock.

Account 2, Priest is DPS 1st, and healer 2nd. I'd consider rolling a tank in this spot, but not yet since you have 3 other accounts. I'd stick with a DPS spell caster class like a mage/warlock.

That leaves 3 accounts.
Account3.Tank
Account4.Healer
Account5.DPS

Level 1 to 12, quest.

At level 10, get the quests for Rage Fire Chasm (1 in UC, 2 in Orim, 2 in TB).
Also, doing class quest help you gain some exp while helping each toon.

I would keep these 5 quests in one character and not turn in (A Mage would be great) (why? 4 of the quest are shareable, and in the future twinks/alts, you can share them and have your Mage to complete the quest without traveling to the other cities at the time, and giving them a port there after).

I would use your Account1.Druid to clear RFC with Account 2 to 5.

Then I'd reset and clear the instance again, leaving the objective mobs alone.
Log out the Druid and login the S Priest, kill the objective with the Account1.DPS (Even with Account 3-5 leaching some exp) .

From 14 on out, until you get quests for Wailing Caverns; then repeat with Druid & Shadow Priest to get Account1.DPS get his instance quests complete.

[Mac]

I thought a 2x paladin / 3x dps set would be fun. A great AoE tank combined with extra aura & buffs from a fantastic single target healer, followed by.. 3 shaman for totems & chain lit/heals. All 5 would be in mail or plate, so very little squishiness.

I was thinking this too, but I was wondering why you would think so? I noticed your siggy - you had 4 shaman and 1 pali, from the videos I've seen around, It doesn't look like anyone needs the extra heals from another pali, with 4 or 5 shamen they seem to do fine healing on their own.

[Mac]

*facepalm*
THIS IS THE GENERAL FORUM
BEGINNERS HAVEN THAT WAY
*sigh*

mods, feel free to move this thread to the beginner haven so Zseth doesn't blow a gasket.

[Mac]

So you have
Account 1.70 Druid Tank
Account 2.70 Priest in S1 & Shadow gear
and 3 more new accounts?
Account 3
Account 4
Account 5

I like the idea of creating "alts" in each account that does different thing then my main. And each character would have a Primary role, and Secondary role (tank, healer, dps).
So, Account 1 have a Druid tank 1st, and Healer / Boomkin, 2nd. I'd roll a DPS caster class like a mage/warlock.
Account 2, Priest is DPS 1st, and healer 2nd. I'd consider rolling a tank in this spot, but not yet since you have 3 other accounts. I'd stick with a DPS spell caster class like a mage/warlock.
That leaves 3 accounts.
Account3.Tank
Account4.Healer
Account5.DPS

Thanks for the suggestions on account and questing strategy. Currently my Druid and Priest are on the same account. I was having this conversation to try and decide what to do with them. If I re-spec the priest holy, I'll move him to another account so the druid and the priest are on separate accounts.

[Sanctume]

Thanks for the suggestions on account and questing strategy. Currently my Druid and Priest are on the same account. I was having this conversation to try and decide what to do with them. If I re-spec the priest holy, I'll move him to another account so the druid and the priest are on separate accounts.

I think having multi-70s spread out would give you some diverse things to try later on.

Suppose you created
1.Dps same account as Druid
2.Dps same account as Priest
3.Tank
4.Healer
5.Dps

You will be in the position to mix in a Dru or
Priest as DPS if an encounter calls for it.

And most importanly, you'll have your 5 levelled for the your main purpose of 5-boxing.