Accounts shelved. Keep me updated!

[Mercurio]

DAMET! Now i'm partaking in the hijacking of my thread!

Oh well, doesn't look like Bliz has any plan to fix the heap of junk.

I watched the video from the wowdetox site and read a few pages of posts. I came away a bit confused. The site seems to assume playing WoW means you are socially inept, have a really difficult life, are a jerk when you play, and have a hard time dealing with real-life situations.

To me, finding fun and fulfillment in your leisure time is something to be proud of, not something to be ashamed of. So many others have difficulty with leisure time and spend it watching TV, drinking too much, messing up their relationships with girlfriends in revloving door relationships, sitting around being bored or depressed, posting hate on political forums, or avoiding leisure time entirely by being a workaholic.

I understand WoW can be unhealthy if taken too far, but as long as you are having success at work, in your marriage, in your health, and in serving others, I think having fun with WoW is just another success.

I see many people who are dissatisfied with things, but I look up to those who can find pleasure in things as they are (even with all their imperfections).

The wowdetox site seemed to be filled with people who failed at finding fun in WoW. Unlike the posts made by members here, the wowdetox posters seemed to be taking it particularly hard. Based on the video and their posts, I think that this failure was indicative of their inability to find any joy with life in general. Looking at that site just makes you sad.

[pinotnoir]

Ualaa if you run a DK team do a pally healer. A priest healer gets ass raped. Trust me! Just having a pally there keeps people from focusing you because they know you can bubble. Your priest will die in seconds when they focus it. Trust me I have both a pally and a priest healer. With the DK's you have AMS, LIchborne, and Trinket to break or prevent fear. The worst thing on the DK's are roots.

[Stealthy]

To me, finding fun and fulfillment in your leisure time is something to be proud of, not something to be ashamed of. So many others have difficulty with leisure time and spend it watching TV, drinking too much, messing up their relationships with girlfriends in revloving door relationships, sitting around being bored or depressed, posting hate on political forums, or avoiding leisure time entirely by being a workaholic.

I understand WoW can be unhealthy if taken too far, but as long as you are having success at work, in your marriage, in your health, and in serving others, I think having fun with WoW is just another success.
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This pretty much sums up my attitude towards WoW too - I have no problem telling people what I do with my leisure time, because it's exactly that, MY time.

Playing WoW has not turned me into a basement dwelling social leper, nor has it had a detrimental effect on my job - actually it's a talking point with some colleagues and customers. Even my boss (who is not a gamer) knows I play and will occasionally call me "Leeroy" or "Jenkins" in some good natured ribbing.

I definitely understand how the game can lose it's shine for some - I took a break myself in the lead up to Cata, and have only recently jumped back in, and I'm now enjoying leveling another set of toons through the revamped content. But like many others have said, if you aren't enjoying it, then you should stop playing or take a break. After all, your toons will still be there if you ever decide to come back...

Cheers,
S.

[Lpwned]

...The wowdetox site seemed to be filled with people who failed at finding fun in WoW. Unlike the posts made by members here...

We are a special bread. That’s not an arrogant statement, as I’m not saying we are a better bread, just that we are different.

The trap is there, and it’s an easy one to fall into if your life is tough. If you are in a high pressure guild then the trap is the overwhelming need to get gear. Sooner or later you start sacrificing small things like hanging out with your friends on this one day to play wow. Those small things build up.

Before you know it, you are my old guildy, who has been playing non-stop every day of his life for the last 4 years. He has nothing else to do… He doesn’t even remember what else there is to do. He suffers extreme headaches from sitting in front of a screen all day, and his social life is his contact with his guild members. I can only imagine that his physical health is poor. Physical health is important for mental health. You could forget how to live, and depression could become a serious problem.

The members on this forum are unique in a few ways, the main one being our empty care-o-meter when it comes to other player’s opinions of us. No pressure. The second; most of us started boxing because we were bored with Solo. You don’t get bored of solo if you have fallen into the above trap.
And lastly, from everything I have learned from you guys, we have very diverse lives for WoW players. I’m a WoW player who takes a 600cc Death machine at 120MPH down a race track every other weekend. I could be way off, but that’s not the first image that comes to mind when I think of a stereotypical WoW player


I feel for anyone who fell into the trap that is WoW. I can see how it could lead to suicide.

/cast [target=thread] Derail

[Tonuss]

I watched the video from the wowdetox site and read a few pages of posts. I came away a bit confused. The site seems to assume playing WoW means you are socially inept, have a really difficult life, are a jerk when you play, and have a hard time dealing with real-life situations.

Yep. If the site helps some people overcome a habit that is hard to drop, good for them. But I read those short testimonials and I can't help thinking that the problem that many of them have has nothing to do with WOW. WOW isn't the cause, it's a symptom. Most of them will either return to WOW or find another pastime that will take up countless hours with no return on time invested. And from that point of view, I'm not sure that a site that allows them to wallow in "group self pity" is a good idea, and might be worse for some of them.

[fleaplus]

I used to have a friend who dropped out of college and then kept quitting his jobs so he could play wow and dota. I remember visiting him at his house, trash and clothes everywhere, sink smelling of rot, empty soda cans stacked 10-15 high next to his computer.

He was so addicted he just couldn't get up and walk away. Lucky for me the only thing I have lost is sleep some nights playing wow.

[F9thRet]

I used to have a friend who dropped out of college and then kept quitting his jobs so he could play wow and dota. I remember visiting him at his house, trash and clothes everywhere, sink smelling of rot, empty soda cans stacked 10-15 high next to his computer.

He was so addicted he just couldn't get up and walk away. Lucky for me the only thing I have lost is sleep some nights playing wow.

Please tell me you was able to get him some help.

Stephen

[Vociferate]

There were times that I thought I was bad. Losing a couple hours of sleep, and the very odd all nighter.

But shit, some of the people on that WOWDetox site make me seem like the casual. I care far too much about my job, girlfriend, and the night out at the pub.

I am going to get back to that WoWDetox site to boost my self esteem some more, haha.

[Mukade]

I've just finally run out of hope. Hoping that Bliz would get round to fixing problems instead of introducing new ones in the process of making a half-assed attempt at fixing existing ones.

XP locked BGs sounded like a great idea at the time, then they made the BGs need full teams for queues to pop, and suddenly they stopped popping. Now they merged the battlegroups it turns out the queues have been totally f-ed up from the start, with a 20 man BG needing 30 in the queue to pop. It's no wonder smaller groups are having problems getting games, and everyone is getting crap queues, when 1/3 of the people queued aren't going to get in, unless they wait the entire duration for the next BG to start.

RealID sounded like a good idea too, but if you can't do diddly with a RealID friend on another server besides chat, what use is it? It would do wonders for cross realm LFD if you could add as friends the few people you meet who you do want to play with again, and group up with them in future, instead of sufferring yet more randoms.

War Games too suffers from an incomplete implementation of what RealID could have been. It would have worked so much better if all the people on the continent could have grouped up as they want, and got games with just the kind of people they want to play with. Result, no-one complaining about overgeared heirloomed players farming their way round low level BGs. No problems with BGs filled with bads or farmers, just a social game where people can do things together, in social groups, instead of being anonymous, split up over several servers, or stuck playing with people they'd rather not group with at all.

Seems Bliz are more interested in keeping all the botters, afkers, leechers, griefers and hackers, and forcing everyone else into playing alongside them whether they want to or not, simply because they're paying customers too, then keeping all the profits while they do a half assed job of 'developing' the game, or rather developing features that look good in theory, and in marketing, but rarely live up to the hype in practice..

I've yet to see WoW really develop in any aspect despite hoping it would for a few years now. It comes to something when the tactics for a dungeon boss at the highest level read 'Just like <insert boss from vanilla dungeon>', and the one place where you PvP with equal gear to everyone else, and entirely for fun instead of for XP, honor, gear, rating or achievements, is the least supported by developers or the majority of players who worship them and the constantly imbalanced grindfest.

So yeah, 5 accounts being cancelled here too.

[Toonarmy]

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So yeah, 5 accounts being cancelled here too.

ummmm, yup. What you said.

I actually phoned Blizz to let them know I was done because of the a) linearity of the cata quests, b) 4.0.6, c) less than optimal pvp implementation (bg/arena cause I played on a care-bear server), d) honour boon-doggle early on. They actually seemed pretty interested in why I was leaving and that I was a boxer. Who knows if they'll do anything about it, but at least they seemed interested.

Has anyone else talked to them?

toonarmy

edit: minor grammar correction