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    Quote Originally Posted by Lpwned View Post
    Wow! I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting this response. It seems that I am not an outlier.

    Cat was a waste of money. Apart from it bring VERY clear that WoW has been put into a "bleed these suckers for every penny we can get" mode, It tried to bring PvP to what it was back in BC. This is all good (I loved BC) but ultimately doesn't work with the disgusting level of class homogenization.

    There is no way to fix the game at this point other than to start taking abilities away from people. Let's take a look at how much homogenization we have... this is just what I can think up off the top of my head. A lot of it relates all the way back to BC, so if you don't know what I'm talking about, likely its a BC ability / talent.

    Ability copied and changed -> Class
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    Blink -> Warlocks, warriors
    Sprint/dash -> lol everyone
    Evasion -> Hunters
    Bloodlust -> Mages, hunters
    Charge -> druids
    Polymorph -> Shamans
    Blizzard -> everyone
    Stuns -> everyone
    Entangling Roots -> Shamans
    Frost Trap -> Mages, Deathknights
    Concussive shot (BC version) -> Mages
    Disarm -> Spriest, rogues... LOL Love the Spriest one.
    Blessing of Freedom -> DKs, hunters
    Improved Counter spell -> DK strangulate
    HoTs -> Shaman
    Soul Link -> Hunters
    Dispel ->Everyone
    Insane (I can't be killed) buttons:
    Dispersion, Disengage, Ice Block, Survival Instincts, Shield Wall, Bubble, evasion (Lol at evasion changes), Knockbacks, AoE stuns, fears, sheeps', silences.
    I could go on and on...
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    I hated Wrath for the very reason my signature states. It wasn't a thinking game, it was who ever could mash more buttons, had more Rets / DKs, and could burst a target down first.

    It seems that Cat is the same thing... But it's now who ever can mash more CC macros.
    As a response to the pvp concerns they decided feral druids being able to break roots after 6 years should go away.
    I liked being feral even if it meant I wasn't the best. Cataclysm is a mess, more so than I remember the other xpac's being honestly. Nostalgia is funny, I liked BC a lot but I remember being frustrated a lot but never this much.
    Glad, so to speak, to see I am not the only one who has problems with Cataclysm. Was starting to think I just simply sucked really really bad.

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    I'm not quite to the point of quitting but suffice it to say I've been replaying old RTS games more than I've been playing WoW this month.
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  3. #13

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    The way they've changed questing is unfortunate. I've leveled up (via traditional questing) 4-5 characters and still don't think I saw more then 75% of all the quests, so it was fun to look for quests I hadn't done before. Now this linear, one path through the quest chains, is fairly uncreative, low budget.

    BC was such a good expansion/improvement game enhancement... Wotlk seemed to be the best lore-wise, but Cata is sort of cut and paste, re-do existing zones... feels like a gear reset, not sure maybe the story/lore will unfold as content is added.

    Heroics are not fun at all... I looked forward to tackling (multiboxing wise) each new instance as I progressed in BC and WoTLK, but now I dread going into them... I've just done VP and SFK over and over... SFK takes forever to run (at least for me).

    I've actually gone back to singleboxing a bunch (only reason I came back was because multiboxing was so fun) so not sure how much longer I'll last. Going to make a serious effort to raid in this expansion... I always felt doing anything with 25 (or 40 in vanilla) people was a recipe for keyboard to forehead smashing... nothing burned me out more then a 3-5 hour instance run with 25 people you really didnt know that well expressing opinions, stories about themselves, or jokes you've heard 9000 times over vent.

    I only played Wotlk from May/10 to Cata go live, but it's the longest stretch of WoW I played, where I was 100% hooked during the whole time...was fun/challenging/rewarding.

    Only been roughly a month into Cata, so really gonna try to persist (telling yourself to persist, with a video game is already a sign that maybe it's not that fun).

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    I hope that in the future Blizzard will open realms for old expension. Level 60, 70 or 80 max level cap so if you choose a WotLK realm, your just in the last patch that has been made for that expension. I don't think cata is bad, but arena is the thing i enjoy the most on my realm. I have deserted my shamans, now going to level DKs. I'm leveling them now i got 4 DK's on level 70, and don't really mind leveling them. Just not looking forward to 70-78 since i hate wotlk leveling.

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    I haven't been playing all that much during WOTLK and restarted boxing 5 just before Cata, never did any instance boxing and still in the process of lvling teams (3x 5 @60 now) but I still enjoy it. true there's a lot of gathering quests but tedious as they are, they give xp;-) Got 2 chars to 85 boxing quests and will now set of to lvl 1 more team (prob dk's) and after that I will start to lvl them all to 85 too.
    I am looking forward to instancing with them and I read alot here about tactics and all, only thing I'm abit worried about is how to CC, gonna need to really get that right.

    So all in all still enjoying it all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leovindica View Post
    So all in all still enjoying it all
    Ditto here

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    My favorite class is Feral Druids, that was my first toon and I've maxed her level every expansion.

    I saw Ellay's videos for quad shammies, and that got me into boxing.
    Was running two accounts, on two PC's with no software/hardware before that.
    Kind of jumped on the band wagon with shammies, but did a bunch of stuff with RAF.

    They've announced two rather crappy changes for Ferals.
    The Berserk would be a pain, but aside from the current stacked Tremors every boxing comp has that same issue with fears.
    The Shifting, not sure I would want to play with that change.
    They did say, there might be a DPS increase to compensate; although bleeds are supposed to be nerfed in that same patch, so that is inconsistent.
    I'd guess the Shift nerf, is purely to enrage the community, so Blizzard can revoke it and be seen as nice; meanwhile the Berserk will go through as intended.
    If that is Blizzard's actual approach, it shows an incredible lack of respect for the player base, but they've done exactly that scenario three or four times to various classes, so I would guess that is the case.

    In any case, I've canceled all five of my accounts.
    They run out in mid march, as they were on six months recurring.

    So, if the Feral nerfs leave the class as fun.
    Or if the nerfs don't go through (they're on test, meaning being tested or looked at)...
    Then I would naturally renew.
    But if they leave the class feeling lackluster...
    Then what is the point of playing something else, that will be nerfed (or could be at any point) into the ground too?

    See how it goes.
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    Wow, lots of forum names I'm use to getting tips/info from pondering retirement (at least temporary). Can't fathom a forum without Ualaa giving all the great advice and help.

    Folks bring up good points. If it isn't fun, why pay to do it?

    I don't like much about this expansion,

    HATE the linear quest setup, Some of the phasing is ok, one the one hand nice to see that all my work made an area safe, but down side is well no point ever going there again as nothing to hunt...
    not happy about some of the classes changes, though I don't PvP much if at all so not impacted at least in that respect.

    Not a big fan of the changes to dungeon difficulty. Partly I'm sure because of my skill level as a boxer. I go back and forth between trying to meet the challenge and wanting to bag it and move on.

    Pondering what I do like about the expansion, some of the quests were fun, though as a boxer all the cuta-aways were kind of annoying. Like some of the new proc based mechanics, but am confused by what the devs really achieved. The talent changes were because folks were having to take mandatory talents, but things seem even more forced and boiler plate now than before. most talent points are no brainer, fill up the tree except the PvP ones. Then add the remaining to the other trees as fits the spec.

    Pondering playing Rift, which means I ask the question even more now, If I'm not having fun, and I'll be switching games in a month why play at all.

    Really hope that Rift allows boxing as we have come to know and love with WoW, but I can always go back to 2 boxing, running on two computers and two keyboards, though not sure if I could stand that any more, ISBoxer and Jamba has forever changed me I think...

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    Cancelled all 5 of my accounts too. Really enjoyed Wrath at the end, enjoyed the challenge of boxing and quite enjoyed levelling all the alts.

    Levelled 1 toon solo to 85 and since then I've not had the urge to log in. Seems strange after 5 years of keeping me hooked, that I no longer feel like playing it, I log in and within minutes I'm logging out again.

    Dabbling a bit in Eve, not sure it's my thing but need something to keep me occupied (and the insane learning curve makes it a bit more challenging).

    Waiting for The Old Republic and Dark Millenium: Online, they will be my next hobbies/obsessions .

    Bought a few games i've been meaning to play for ages, Dawn of War 2, Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age: Origins, so i'll see what they're like.

    I check the forums everyday still, but not seen anything that makes me want to log in

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    Blizzard will never ever be able to make wow a balanced game or a game that is perfect. In fact one could argue its in their interest not to, if they did make it perfect it would become stale and boring. There will always be a constant ebb and flow to the game for it to be profitable and keep people interested.

    They want people to theorycraft like insane dribbling mouthbreathers every patch, that way they are thinking about wow alot more than they should even when they are not online. All changes whether good or bad from each individuals perspective only last for a relative short period only to be changed again later.

    Now with all that said, I could myself say I have canceled my accounts also since I used to play 5 but only have played 2 since mid wotlk. Only down side is I cant do heroics by myself, but I can do everything else, its cheaper too.
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