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[Kekkerer]

Heroics are faceroll aoe if people learn to avoid taking damage and actually learn fight mechanics. The only people that find heroics difficult are the unprepared and under geared ones that want to jump straight into heroics after dinging 85.

[Lpwned]

/cast [target=this_thread] Resurrect


I would like to bring this thread back to life for its original intended purpose. The original plan for this thread was to use it as a source of updates over the course of a few months. It turned out to be the catalyst to a mass quit wave, of which I have mixed feelings about; boxers are a rare and fairly intelligent bunch, and there are now less of us in WoW Then again WoW adds very little to the overall quality of one’s life, so I don’t feel too bad More sunshine for all!


None the less, I would like to bring the beast back to life to find out what is happening in the world… of warcraft. My questions are as follows, and are extremely focused:

• Are elemental Shamans viable in a 5s yet? 4 Ele + 1 healer
• Have the classes be roughly balanced yet? (God dam mages)
• Has blizzard started making logical patches yet? (When I left they were changing things about classes just for shits and giggles)

There is much to be said on these three topics, but these topics are basically all I care about. I don’t care much about PvE, raid progression, guilds, or questing.


Recap of where I left:
Elemental was worthless. Burst was non-existent, our survivability was in the toilet, we were manna pigs that did very little damage and had no control over a fight. Mage’s Ring-O-God-Dam-Frost was so OP that it wasn’t evens an insult any more, it was just hilarious. Blizzard still had their heads up their ‘you know where’, and refused to nerf mages to the ground. I left just as they killed druids (Shape shifting), if that helps set a marker in your mind of where I was at.

The game was a cesspool of imbalance, win trading, hopping on bridges to collect your free loots, painstaking weeks of grinding for those that missed the bridge, and a fight being won by how many mages you had on the team.


Anything changed?

[Ualaa]

My questions are as follows, and are extremely focused:

• Are elemental Shamans viable in a 5s yet? 4 Ele + 1 healer
• Have the classes be roughly balanced yet? (God dam mages)
• Has blizzard started making logical patches yet? (When I left they were changing things about classes just for shits and giggles)

Anything changed?

I believe Elemental gets some major buffage in 4.2, which is not here yet.
They will be able to cast Lightning Bolt while moving.
And if Flame Shock is dispelled, they'll have 90% haste which is a lot of pew-pew or healing.
Don't think they're that good now, but totems do stack and all, so probably not the worst combo either.

I don't think you'll ever see balance, they have to weigh PvE and PvP large and small scale.
My DK's are very dominant, more so than my Elementals were in late BC or early WotLK.
So they're a bit over powered in relation to other classes or compositions I've tried.
Mages aren't horribly annoying for these, as I have four death grips on round-robin which refresh often, plus strangulate and mind freeze.
Rogues are the class the DK's despise, because of Sap on one team member after the other; since Rogues can now move at 100% speed while stealthed, I recently experienced an arena game where my five killed four of theirs and then I resorted to watching a movie since the lone surviving rogue was playing chicken shit and wouldn't engage.

Mages have not been nerfed, they're pretty much the same.

Druids have power shifting with any shape shift if they're Resto spec, or with Boomkin form only if they're Balance.
Feral doesn't have power shifting to break roots, but the 83 roar ability is raid-wide and makes affected targets immune for the duration... so almost a minute every 3 minutes of root immunity; nothing against the fear break/immunity that was lost.

[Velassra]

Fuck cata, gief woltk and the semi easiness that came with it. Only the unemployed or socially inept like cata pve character progression. Gear has no meaning when it resets every expansion. Only thing that has any value is entertainment vs time spent playing wow. Blizzard is once again stretching too far in one direction.

Lol fuck I love those seagull!

[Dramoth]

Well if they are in a guild, why arent they running Heroics with their guildies or some of them at least ?

You'd assume that would happen too ease the pain then of heroics if its like that and speed gearing process up.

One thing I see is alot of people cried Heroics are hard/difficult, because people are used too Wotlk and want too steam roll dungeons and forgot or were not apart of BC and how gearing worked.

Heroics arent difficult, half issue was people didnt know the mechanics, they dps or healers or even tanks didnt bother researching the strats and or their roles an djust expected to enter a dungeon and pew pew and be done with it.

Now hardly any CC is needed in them, most times.. for me it was piss easy too gear my x4 mages in heroic gear, i was already financial in game too buy them some epics, craft some as well and instantly heroic ready and some raid ready now.

People cried in Wotlk its too "easy" we want "BC" style back... well you got that, now its "too hard" "too time consuming" It really isn't.

I raid I'm a raider on my main Hunter, ok we are not into hardmodes yet, almost though, could have been a while ago but things changed, anyway if people actually put a little thought, little small amount too do some research to know what they need gear wise, where to obtain it, what rep they need etc all these speed process up significantly.

Honestly I do not understand why people complain about Cata being difficult.

It was deisgned more to be what people wanted, more guild related, more team based, and thats what it is.

Guilds, Perks, ... Heroics... meant to be done more with guidies then Pugs. As groups within your guild.

I seldom use LFG Tool, well not true, its used more too fill in 1 or 2 spots at most... either adps, or a tank if my fiance and I want too play DPS roles, other wise its him on his tank, myself on either 1-3 dps and or something 1-3 dps and my healer, or my kid on her dps and everything basicly falls over.

Bliz can not please everyone.

BC was great for many, Wotlk was ok for some, crap for others, too easy, too boring, too face rolling.. blah blah... we want it harder, more challenging, well you got that now, and now its too long, too hard, to this too that... lol... /shakes head and smiles.

Some time lapsed and now raids what we thought were some what difficult because we didnt know mechanics well, are now like doing a heroic dungeon, get in there and in 1 nights raiding, down 9 of the bosses.

Others are far more advanced, some others far behind, some others barely can get started because of issues obtaining players, thats when those players should contact other guilds who are in similar situations and organise too raid together perhaps.

Anyway... I like Cata. Have Fun!

I dont mind cata at all... I am having to learn marking for CC on my tank as in TBC my main was a pala healer. And I think that the ones who are complaining the most are the ones who joined in Wrath and are used to the easy instances. However, I did forget to mention that we are getting some people who are just quiting the game because they are suffering from wow burnout.

As I said, we usually had 15-20 people online and some of those would be levelling, some would be running instances in a guild group which would leave a few without enough guild members to make up a group that included a tank or a healer so that they could pick someone up easily and quickly in LFG. So they would have to join full pug groups and on Anachronos-EU and the associated Battlegroup servers, that could take up to 45 minutes.

Anyway, I have started recruiting for my guild again and hopefully I will get a number of regulars who are interested in raiding and being social.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Judging by the other things I'm reading and the desperate "things are fine, we're happy with Cata" posts by Blizzard in response to complaint threads... Well, time will tell.

We're glad some of y'all are still enjoying Cataclysm. A lack of enjoyment of Cataclysm does not make one a deficient human being.

[Oatboat]

Judging by the other things I'm reading and the desperate "things are fine, we're happy with Cata" posts by Blizzard in response to complaint threads... Well, time will tell.

We're glad some of y'all are still enjoying Cataclysm. A lack of enjoyment of Cataclysm does not make one a deficient human being.

True... i logged my accounts in right when cata was released on the 10 day trial and went underwater, drowning my toons and logged off for the last time.

[Cptan]

Quit WoW, its been almost a year. Not planning on coming back to any mmorpg.
Got different toys now

Niley,

Done with your RX7 and working on other model?

If you have plans to build Trike, DIY type, and willing to share your design, let me know!

[Shania]

Anyway, I have started recruiting for my guild again and hopefully I will get a number of regulars who are interested in raiding and being social.

Good Luck., its not so easy to recruit now, depending on your guild level/perks so it seems on most realms.

Alot dont want to leave the guild they are in, even if they arent raiding in the guild and might want too.

We were left at 8/12 Guild Progresion and it halted there, due too 1 fruit cake I booted out, a druid tank and his buds left with him, and formed their own guild and have been nothing but never ending trouble even still.

We havent recruited well we have but not geared or skilled raiders, but 4 of us in my guild still raid, we have teamed up with a friend of mine in the no.1 Guild on my realm, one of them uses his alt too raid with us and his main in core of that no1 guild. 5 Of them, 4 of us now and 1 regular friend/pug from another guild, we all work in good sync together, now are 10/12 and almost downed Ala'kir tonight, 11%

Definitely got it on Monday, next raid.

If you are finding it hard too recruit but do have some players geared and ready too raid, try and approach some other guilds in similar situations where neither have the numbers but get together on certain nights too raid, that might help. Downside if you care, is you dont get the guild achievement for your guild for bosses you down unless its minimum 8 of your guildies etc.

But plus is you still get to raid, see, experience and down content, regardless I guess...

Just a thought maybe.. to help get you started.

Im on a smaller realm used to be on a very High pop realm and I miss it quite alot, not much I can do about it for some time, if ever, but we raiding, making progress and Im enjoying it.

[Dramoth]

Good Luck., its not so easy to recruit now, depending on your guild level/perks so it seems on most realms.

Alot dont want to leave the guild they are in, even if they arent raiding in the guild and might want too.

We were left at 8/12 Guild Progresion and it halted there, due too 1 fruit cake I booted out, a druid tank and his buds left with him, and formed their own guild and have been nothing but never ending trouble even still.

We havent recruited well we have but not geared or skilled raiders, but 4 of us in my guild still raid, we have teamed up with a friend of mine in the no.1 Guild on my realm, one of them uses his alt too raid with us and his main in core of that no1 guild. 5 Of them, 4 of us now and 1 regular friend/pug from another guild, we all work in good sync together, now are 10/12 and almost downed Ala'kir tonight, 11%

Definitely got it on Monday, next raid.

If you are finding it hard too recruit but do have some players geared and ready too raid, try and approach some other guilds in similar situations where neither have the numbers but get together on certain nights too raid, that might help. Downside if you care, is you dont get the guild achievement for your guild for bosses you down unless its minimum 8 of your guildies etc.

But plus is you still get to raid, see, experience and down content, regardless I guess...

Just a thought maybe.. to help get you started.

Im on a smaller realm used to be on a very High pop realm and I miss it quite alot, not much I can do about it for some time, if ever, but we raiding, making progress and Im enjoying it.

Yeah, people are more interested in what perks they can get in a guild these days rather than the social environment of the guild.

Luckily we made it to level 20 before things started slowing down...