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    Default A plea to all newcomers

    I know you're excited. I know you're impatient. We've all been there.

    But before you post your very first question, PLEASE follow our Community Guidelines:

    General Forum Rules
    Before asking for support of ANY KIND, search the Wiki and/or the forum search function.
    Identifying yourself as a "noob", "newbie", "new to this", "n00b" or any permutation thereof does NOT absolve you of the responsibility to do some research of your own before posting.

    The reason I ask this is because I absolutely love helping people. Many, many people here absolutely love helping people, and we get a bit of a buzz out of seeing somebody new get up and running.

    BUT... and here's the rub... if we little helpers come along first thing in the morning (I'm in Europe), all enthusiastic, looking for problems to solve and we're greeted with two pages full of questions that people could have answered for themselves with even the smallest amount of effort, our enthusiasm wanes, frustration takes over, and people who actually NEED help aren't helped.

    In other words, genuine requests for help with potentially tricky / unique problems are lost in the noise of posts from lazy people who can't be bothered to do anything for themslves. That's a bad thing.

    We all know that the search facility can be hit'n'miss, and we're tolerant of that. I post "use the following links" *alot*, but I never do that without first having used them to find the answer myself. Some things are genuinely difficult to find, but most are not, and I'd rather teach people how to find information than just keep recycling the same old stuff over and over again.

    So, please, be considerate in posting your questions and (here it comes....) make full use of the information that's already here:

    How to ask a question

    Guides

    Software Tools Forum

    Forum Search Facility

    Better, but off-site search facility

    Wiki

    Video - how to set up your very first WoW team <- Absolutely mandatory reading if you're completely new to boxing!!!

    Thank you, and I apologise in advance to anyone with a unique problem with which I might have been able to help but didn't because I just hit the "mark forum as read" link before I resorted to banging my head on the table.... yes, today IS a bad day for the newbie forum....
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    Awesome Post, but do you think people know how to read? No.
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    Yeah. And even those that can will see more than one paragraph and skip it.

    Oh well.

    Writing it was therapeutic for me anyway

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    Default if it makes you feel any better...

    I read all of it, and have yet to post a question, bc I do tend to search for my answers (and have usually found them) before asking here.
    I've been dual boxing a warrior - hunter combo, and I'm at lvl 52 already, but plaguelands is really tough without a way to heal

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    Otlecs post wasn't targetted at you. (In fact the chances of the ones he was targetting it at actually reading this is slim)

    You've got your duo up to 52 so have evidently read and worked out the basics.

    I would recommend ungoro (if you haven't done it already) and felwood if you are finding plaguelands hard, then go back at 54, where I'm sure your combo will find it easier going. It would suck not having the ability to heal in some way.

    I tried solo levelling a warrior for a while (till about 24) and the biggest negative was not having healing (especially when you get in amongst a bunch of ranged casters).
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    yes I know his post wasn't directed at me

    and I just flew my toons back to un'goro to do a few of the quests there and gain a few levels before heading back to PLs

    if only my net connection would allow me to run more than 2 copies of wow, I could boost them a bit...

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    I've been dual boxing a warrior - hunter combo, and I'm at lvl 52 already,
    That being the case, you're almost certainly one of those whose worthy questions run the risk of being lost in the noise I was complaining about :|

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    Okay i give this post 5 thumbs up.
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    u must know that some people never used a forum before. they dont know whats a thread, a post, a poll.
    the search is great, but sometimes, it wont show the results ur after, and new ppl will give up if they never used a forum before.
    we keep building this huge edrama towards new ppl to this forum, when in fact they can be even new to any kind of forums, so give them a break.

    some ppl just make new threads because their lazy, but theres also others that dont even know what to do, or where to click.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'shaeman',index.php?page=Thread&postID=111136#post 111136
    Otlecs post wasn't targetted at you. (In fact the chances of the ones he was targetting it at actually reading this is slim)

    .....
    Yes, the fundamental problem with most posters on the internet is once they see something new, they want to ask how to do it, not search for themselves. People ignore stickies, ignore previous posts (even ones right below them) and ignore common sense. Now usually once they are directed to the proper places and told "no, don't ask that, search for yourself," then they frequently become upstanding, fully contributing members of the community. The problem is the begining, when they just run in asking all sorts of questions.



    Quote Originally Posted by 'merujo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=111168#post1 11168
    u must know that some people never used a forum before. they dont know whats a thread, a post, a poll.
    the search is great, but sometimes, it wont show the results ur after, and new ppl will give up if they never used a forum before.
    we keep building this huge edrama towards new ppl to this forum, when in fact they can be even new to any kind of forums, so give them a break.

    some ppl just make new threads because their lazy, but theres also others that dont even know what to do, or where to click.
    Well, if they're new to forums, I'm sure they've used Google or some other search at some point in their life. People don't get lucky and type in "howdoidualbox.com" and have it go to the right place.
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