WoW 4.0.6 PTR - LOTS of changes

[Shodokan]

Dks AOE nerfed to the ground. Frost 2h dmg up by 12% overall. IBF as a stun remover... lulz.

Warriors buffed and less mobility because of no intercept.

You can finally fear druids!

[Lpwned]

Anyone else feel like Elemental needed a little love? lol at bloodlust change. Can anyone who is fully geared speak to the manna problem? Is it simply a gear thing, or are we just manna pigs now?

I was really hoping to see:
Unleash weapon brought off the GCD
Spirit Walkers Grace given a shorter CD or longer duration
A manna fix (At least for DPS spells, heals can remain a hog for Ele)

[Duane]

And the neutering of bear druids continues.

[Ualaa]

Looking at this from a Feral point of view.

Buffs:
Barkskin not dispellable = nice.
Berserk not a fear break/immunity = incredibly shitty
Bloodlust/Heroism = boost, via nerfing the opposition.
Mount Up = bug fix.
Ring of Frost = slight nerf to the most annoying caster to play against.
Shadowmeld in a shapeshift form = decent.

Mixed feelings on these; Berserk providing fear immunity/break was huge, but ferals are already immune to polymorph and virtually immune to all stuns/snares via power shifting. With diminishing returns, trinket the first fear, and IWT + Feral Charge (at 25 yards) it doesn't break the composition. The nerf to mages is very welcome, and removal of heroism/bloodlust is a larger loss to those compositions and thus a larger relative gain going against them.



Damage:
Mangle Cat 360% > 460% = 78% relative increase.
Shred 350% > 450% = 77% relative increase.
Rake/Rip -10% = bleed nerf, and bleeds (dots) ignore armor.

Moving the damage away from the bleeds and towards straight physical damage. Aside from the Ravage opener from stealth (or after a Feral Charge), burst will definitely increase. More of a PvE raid loss, although with Mastery tied directly to bleeds, it might not be much of an issue as gear progresses.



Glyphs:
Regrowth is interesting, if the Berserk change goes through; Berserk was never a DPS increase via glyph because by the last five seconds, energy was gone; it was taken for increased fear immunity.
I'm already not using Thorns nearly as often as I thought, so might need to take a hard look at glyphs again.

[Bigfish]

I'm kind of surprised they didn't drop swipe or demoralizing roar down to level 16, given the change to nourish and healing touch.

[Toned]

If you're not hit capped as ele you aren't getting your RNG mana regen from Rolling thunder.

They need to either increase the mana returned from rolling thunder or make it 100% chance.

[Lpwned]

I PvP, there is no hit cap.

I just think they need to lower the cost of everything (DPS). More manna regen will just bring us back to WotLK. And manna was a total joke then. That entire expansion was a PvP joke. That's why I quit a month in.

Also does anyone know if / when feral gets the nerf bat to the face? Is that the patch before this one? Or is bliz taking the normal attitude "They are fine"? (LOL brings back memories of my Ret pally 3.0 patch...)

[BrothelMeister]

I PvP, there is no hit cap.

Check your interface, the PvP hit cap is the one required to make you not miss level 85 characters, and its a set number.

If you're not hit capped as ele you aren't getting your RNG mana regen from Rolling thunder.

They need to either increase the mana returned from rolling thunder or make it 100% chance.

I disagree; planning to roll a Druid team, so I added up the mana returns per 5 sec from Talents/Innervate compared to Thunderstorm/Rolling thunder, and its almost Identical.

[Umbaalo]

Warstomp while shapeshifted.... I've been waiting for this since vanilla WoW. Really pissed off that it took so long to implement (hopefully), but glad its finally here.
Other than that, bear nerfs make me sad in the pants.

[Svpernova09]

Warstomp while shapeshifted.... I've been waiting for this since vanilla WoW. Really pissed off that it took so long to implement (hopefully), but glad its finally here.
Other than that, bear nerfs make me sad in the pants.

Despite the nerfs, it's really AWESOME that our level 85 spells are REALLY GREAT RIGHT?








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