I agree. I can never get anyone into a TB game. What a mess. I remember back when they announced Wintergrasp and how it was going to be this open environment that was "True PVP" now it is just a lame bg that one can fly over. YEAH! Just scrap the idea if you can't build it right and put more effort into bg maps. I think they should release new maps every month and teams should start in different areas randomly. That would make each game unique even if it was the same map and type. Look at how they keep halo fresh.

A note: most of the time I have a max of 5 on 5 in my Wintergrasp due to the balance issue on my server.