Upcoming patch: is blizzard real?

[Zub]

sounds like they are rewarding for losing TB every second game.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Would you rather have the expansion delay another two months and not have players beta test it?

Anyone complaining about the lack of finish has to except more delay.

[genghiskhan]

I agree with sam, if you want a finished product then you should be fine with a release date of say, 12/20/12. This is how wow has always worked. Xpac releases unfinished, they spend 2 years fixing it while releasing new content and fixing that, then BAM! New xpac! Cycle starts again...

[Mosg2]

I think everyone is overstating how buggy things and underselling how much work got done for the Cata release. None of the bugs mentioned are game breakers--Nothing prevents you from playing the game and most are nuisances. Expansions are huge. They take the work of thousands of people. Getting all of that coordinated and pushed out somewhere near "on-time" is a huge accomplishment.

On topic:

I read in beta that the plan was to give the attacker a slight advantage that ramps up for each offensive game you lose. I know they said that tenacity is right out--Most likely this means increased numbers for the attacking side. I'm all for this. Overall I love Tol Barad--It's their best attempt yet at world pvp. Have you tried to do dailies right after a game? It's crazy!

[zenga]

So win trading is happening on my realm. My first battle of the day, horde (we) were attacking. Capped TB within 2 minutes. Wonder what they going to do know. I went in with the intentions to fight alliance and have a normal battle. No way I can get punished for the win trading of others. Yet alone that it's even remotely doable to pick out the players who are actually causing the win trade.

so even getting worse:

-> they made a design error with a BG
-> wasn't properly tested or they would've noticed the flaws
-> the decided to rectify it with a reward rule which ignores gaming theory
-> the outcome is a ban-able situation (win-trading) that is not possible to check/enforce
-> inflation of the honor points

jaj

[Sbrowne55]

Zenga I totally agree, the last few months all I feel like I have been doing is trying to fix shit. Spending a good portion of my time on bliz tech forums trouble shhoting bugs, and lag issues. Along with the major changes with classes and now nerfs I'm frustrated. I may just play some console games instead

[Apps]

There has been quite a lot of rumor and opinion discussion on a lot of other boards n fourms which indicate blizz rushed Cata to counter the release of KotOR. With all the content issues, I think im begining to agree with this rumor.

[blast3r]

Okay, so from now on...if you are red you are dead. So stay away from me unless you want me to get points.

[Bigfish]

I'm about to hop on the " go play something else then" bandwagon, as far as my feeling towards this thread goes. It's like every new expansion release people have to be reminded mmo releases are buggy by nature, and we've done this same dance three times before in WoW alone.

I hear ffxiv is looking for players.

[zenga]

Bigfish, you miss the point of the thread. It's about the flaw in the design and a stupid counter measure. Not about a bug. The 'bug' statements popped in when svpernova stated that it's the testers their fault that TB wasn't tested properly.

We can discuss things here, can't we?