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    I think, long term the proc rate is somewhere around 15-20%.
    So an average of one extra Truegold per five transmutes might be correct.

    My first transmute, resulted in 10 bars across the five toons.
    But I've had days where five toons get five bars.

    And at the moment, only the one team has the Truegold transmute.

    The most profit has been, transmuting with their mats for a 200-300g transmute fee.
    Having all five of my toons grouped together, and just blow out as many of these as possible in a short time frame.
    And then mailing any "procs" to my auction toon, as a free profit.

    I think the Air is a safer transmute.
    The Life will be a lower investment (5g per)...
    And there is more demand for Air (it has held at 60g, on my server), while Truegold has fallen from 1800g to 900g, which is a loss compared to the cost of making a single bar at AH prices...
    While your prices might be lower, through transmuting Life into Fire/Water/Air, if the mats are worth more than the Transmuted item, doing the transmute is a loss over just selling the mats.
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    so Ualaa and Shodokan are you guys doing Life transmutes atm or sticking with truegold?

    Also most of my guys are only level 80 so sadly uldum is out of the question huh? or would you just run your guys there? badthing is I have yet to find a mailbox. Suggestions?
    im doing life x-mutes for at least 15 days to get to 500 easily so i can just make gems.

    I sell my air for 1 stack of herbs per 2 air or 1 air per 20 life... mill... make cards...sell...repeat.
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    On my server at least, living element xmute is FAR better.

    My alchemest is a herbalist as well, so I don't pay for the life. However, it's not a fair comparison without putting some opportunity cost, so they go for 8g each pretty regularly, 15 x 8 = 120g.

    volatile airs sell for 40-45g, very fast. 15 x 40 = 600g

    480g profit (really it's more than that because you'd be hard pressed to even sell 15 volatile life, btw w/e) blows away anything I've been able to put together for truegold. Also, when you consider how easy it is to do...
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    The Element transmute is a lot more profitable.

    I was playing around with trading the transmuted bar, for the transmute mats + 200g.
    That way, I could do the transmute myself and re-trade the bars ad infinitum.
    But also sell the "free" procs.

    Life > Air, is more gold per day, than 200g per toon and 15-20% of the value of a Truegold bar.
    Not saying it will always be the most profitable, but it is currently the best; I'm making a little over 10k a day on average.

    With all my speculation and leveling alchemy, buying starter pvp sets etc.
    I'm sitting at 70,000gp down, but still have all of my WotLK era skins/herbs/ores to sell.
    The speculation hasn't been anything special, but I'll still make double what I spent on mats, although I was hoping for 10-15x profits.
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    So looking at the AH and from selling Volatile Air on the AH prices are now plunging. True Gold is going for a little over 700g each.
    Is this the same for everyone now? Sometimes my Volatile Air is not even selling due to cut throat competition..

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    Life to Air is still a lot more profitable than Truegold.

    At the moment, I'm doing Truegold on the team that is 525 Alchemy.
    Specifically to get 60 Truegold for the Vial of the Sands, or whatever it is called.

    But am going with Life to Air, for the other alchemists.
    The profit is greater that way.
    I'm averaging 10-12g for the Life, and 20-22g for the Air.
    So that is approximately 150g profit per alchemist, which is still rather decent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ualaa View Post
    Life to Air is still a lot more profitable than Truegold.

    At the moment, I'm doing Truegold on the team that is 525 Alchemy.
    Specifically to get 60 Truegold for the Vial of the Sands, or whatever it is called.

    But am going with Life to Air, for the other alchemists.
    The profit is greater that way.
    I'm averaging 10-12g for the Life, and 20-22g for the Air.
    So that is approximately 150g profit per alchemist, which is still rather decent.
    I am probably just a little spoiled, volatile air was selling for 40g each with Life at 15g. Having said that, I have been farming the life with my druid who is a miner and a herbalist and is close to level 83 without any quests, only xp from his professions.

    True gold can be hit learned by a lvl 75? No lvl requirement?

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    No level requirement beyond 75th.
    My first transmute for the Truegold, my toons were 81st or 82nd.
    And I got 14 bars, on five toons which was nice.
    Truegold was costing close to 1k per transmute but was selling at 3k or so.

    When I got into the Life to Air transmutes...
    Life was going for 5g and Air for 60g.
    Still, 10g per Volatile or 150g per character... that's a higher profit than the majority of WotLK with gem transmutes, so no complaints... although 55g per Volatile (825g per toon, 24k per day with my teams) was nice for a week or so.
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    Im only doing truegold transmutes on my 8 guys with 525.

    Air is going down fast and I price the gold at 899g. Although its undercut when I put it out, At some point over 12 hours it usually sells, maybe the competitors are sleeping or whatever.

    Man netherweave bags are off the hook for me, 17G for stuffs I paid like 3G for lol .... I sell like 40 bags a day.

    I got stuck at 510 on all the TH skills .... have to get my guys higher in level drat.

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    My Netherweave Bags have not taken off.
    I still list them, but they're not even selling at what I paid for them.
    Still 30 odd bags, not the end of the world and I have toons on newer teams who can use them for bank slots.

    The Frostweave Bags really took off.
    I'd think from a speculating point of view, it is the current "common" bag from the current expansion that is the one to stockpile for the next expansion.
    Frostweave Bags were going for 40g or so, and have held steady at 150g.
    Netherweave Bags were going for 15g and are not selling at 15g.
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