transmuting truegold.....

[Ualaa]

Haven't logged in, most of this week.
But immediately prior to that, the cost of the mats on the AH was more than what Truegold was going for.
IE, with procs on the transmute it is profitable, but without it is not.

I've got one team at 525 alchemy.
And have mostly been selling transmutes with them.
While 300g a transmute isn't that great, I've managed to acquire 3 bars on my 10 transmutes (2 days).
And those are totally free.

Have also purchased the mats to get two additional teams to 485.
Which will be 150 Volatile Life = 150+ Volatile Air, per day.

Chances are, converting Life into Air and then doing cheap Truegold transmutes will be the most profit.
But with the price disparity between Life and Air, that's quite a bit more profit per day than WotLK gem transmutes were.

So the plan is, get all alchemists to at least 485 for the Volatile Life transmute.
And go from there.



The cooldown on all transmutes is (reset at midnight).
So it varies, according to when you did it.

[Pallarfo]

servertime 0:00 is reset...

[blbjtb]

My thing is the Truegold market is so cut throat. Everytime I go to the restroom @ work im taking my phone and have to undercut someone eles by 1 silver its a bit insane. For the time being I am going to transmute the lifes. More classes seem to it and while you dont get the awesome paycheck from making a free truegold or in some cases 5 I feel like the net gain will be more from the Xmutes from life to whatever else. Bad thing for me is I cant just say ok everyone is doing air because I quit boxing this Xpac but all elementals on my sever are at least double what life is.

[Kicksome]

Airs are selling for 40g each on my server. It's cheaper for me to just transmute life->air on my 4 alcs. That's a solid 2k+ gold a day for almost no work. And I usually proc, so it could be 2k - 4k a day pure profit.

[Harrypott]

Was using 3 alchemists to convert the volatile life to the various other volatile's each day and using my fourth alchemist to do the truegold. I spend an hour or two early in the morning farming herbs (every few days) so don't end up paying for the volatile life. I just buy the Pyrium Bar's off the AH since they don't cost much and I don't have the professions to make them. No doubt i'll get sick of farming herbs but I do it at 6am so usually only one other person gathering herbs. Spent 2 hours and gathered 5k worth of herbs if i would have sold them on the AH.

I've since leveled one of my current alchemists to max so he can do a truegold each day too but thinking I need more alchemeists now. What level do toons need to be to be able to level alchemy high enough for the Living elements transmute?

[Kojii]

The toon has to be level 75

[Ualaa]

At the moment, Air transmutes are better for me.

Life = 6g each.
Air = 60g each.
x12 mark up.
Discounting procs, turn 84g into 840g.

Truegold = 1200g each.
AH purchasing the mats = 1400g
Transmuting your own air = 900g for the mats.

But then transmutation spec procs muddle things up a bit.
750g profit, with some procs gets a few extra Volatile Air (+5 Airs, would be 300g profit extra).
But break even to 300g profit on Truegold, can be a massive gain with procs (I've had +5 Truegold already, which was +7500g).

[Ualaa]

I bought the mats to level three additional teams to 485, for the Life Transmute.
And have leveled a second team to 485 already.

Which means, one team at 525 with Truegold.
One team at 485, with the Life Transmute.
And mats for two additional teams for the Life Transmute.

But have not even logged into warcraft in three days now.
Been fairly busy around Christmas.

Going to be doing the Life primarily on the other toons.
But the Truegold on the first team, with the Air supplied by one of the Life teams.
When prices drop, I'll level additional teams to 525, but probably go with Air as the main transmute, at least until epic gems are introduced... then those will probably be the transmute of choice.

[riffraff]

yeah the transmutation master proc on this is pretty sweet. It's a surprise!

[blbjtb]

Can we Settle this once and for all of what is going to end up netting us the most cash?
Lets base it on 5 characters (I have more so i will just times this by 2 others that have more do the same 5 is just a good jumping off point.)

Transmute Truegold
Costs (as of right now on my server 12 /29/2010)
Pyrium Bar (3), 50 G = 150
Volatile Fire (10), 18G = 180
Volatile Air (10), 35 G = 350
Volatile Water (10) X 17g = 170

Total cost for one truegold = 850 1 Truegold sells for 1000 on my server so that is 150 g per char per day
Assume that you are proc spec lets say that on the average you proc 1 extra truegold a day thats pure profit (out of your 5 characters)

750 (150 * 5) + 1000 = 1750 profit per day.

Life to air
15 Volatile life X 10 = 150
Volatile Air (15), 35 G = 525

525-150= 375 profit
lets say again you proc one time for one of the lessers least amount is Water or Earth for between 14-17g so lets just say 15 for easy math
375*5=1875 + 225 = 2100 profit

2100 - 1750 = 350 gold bonus if you xmute the airs. per 5 characters. or 70 gold extra per character per day.

What really screws this up is if you proc 3 or a 4 on one character.. So what does everyone think?