My rated BG first impressions

[Kromtor]

If you read one of my posts a few months ago I stressed that boxing would be detrimental to the team, any team. Focus fire means jack in bgs when everyone respawns so fast, sure its good to coordinate kills but it wont win the game for you. Also, once people start getting resilience, haha good luck.

So far the team I am on is 10-2 and my rating is 792, but others are different even though we played the same number of games. I dont know what is going on. We have only had 2 really good games and we lost both those, but damn were they fun. The 10 wins were just so easy we felt bad. Edit; This is solo- I guess it doesnt help. ;(


In terms of arena, everyone should get 2200 with ease. The MMR system is so broken atm everyone is getting inflated mmrs. There are 3-4 classes(war,mage,feral,aff lock) that are insane atm and even though hunters are not insane dmg wise they prove to still be one of if not the best bg class.

i agree. boxers who are used to cleaning up in pugs vs nobody's are going to find that playing geared, organized teams with healers and CC is another thing altogether. smart rogues and mages will ruin your day. smart teams will purposefully not kill off all your guys. there are so many ways to screw with boxers in BG's and screw up the graveyard synch.

what's the deal with the inflated ratings in arenas that you're talking about? they just screw it up with the changes that were made to tie it in with bg's or what?

[remanz]

Yeah. what does inflated mmr mean ?

I gain big when I beat low MMR teams, and I lose little when I lose to low MMR team ? So my MMR always goes up, no matter what.

I sense some of it when I played solo with my friends but since we are not 1500 + on team/personal ratings yet. so I can't tell how much

[Bot]

i thought the whole idea of rated bgs is that it would be all pros

[Ualaa]

Honestly, I'd like it if there were no special battlegrounds that were rated.

Instead go with, you cannot enter with a group larger than five players (ie, no raid queuing), and if you queue for a random it is rated.
Have an individual rating (queuing as a group uses the average rating), and place you with others as close to that rating as possible, then be opposed by a group at near the same rating too.

You'd have the largest group of players in the rated pool; no issues with needing 2 more players for your rated raid.
BG's would play as they already/always did.
And it would be an alternative to arena, for those who prefer the world pvp/battleground style.

[Fat Tire]

Honestly, I'd like it if there were no special battlegrounds that were rated.

Instead go with, you cannot enter with a group larger than five players (ie, no raid queuing), and if you queue for a random it is rated.
Have an individual rating (queuing as a group uses the average rating), and place you with others as close to that rating as possible, then be opposed by a group at near the same rating too.

You'd have the largest group of players in the rated pool; no issues with needing 2 more players for your rated raid.
BG's would play as they already/always did.
And it would be an alternative to arena, for those who prefer the world pvp/battleground style.

Ualaa for president!

[Velassra]

Honestly, I'd like it if there were no special battlegrounds that were rated.

Instead go with, you cannot enter with a group larger than five players (ie, no raid queuing), and if you queue for a random it is rated.
Have an individual rating (queuing as a group uses the average rating), and place you with others as close to that rating as possible, then be opposed by a group at near the same rating too.

You'd have the largest group of players in the rated pool; no issues with needing 2 more players for your rated raid.
BG's would play as they already/always did.
And it would be an alternative to arena, for those who prefer the world pvp/battleground style.

Would still be stuck w/ the afk bots as there would be no way to get rid of them and Blizzard doesn't get rid of them anywhere near fast enough. I've been running with a PvP guild on a single toon for a few months prior to the xpac, premade vs premade we held our own and won as many as we lost. This is what I'm hoping rated bg's will turn into because it was fun working w/ a group of people that cared for the objective of the game more than highest dps, hk's or killing blows that they got fighting on the road.

[Mosg2]

Basically Blizz leveled it off so that everyone's going to get to 1500-2k MMR easily.

[remanz]

Basically Blizz leveled it off so that everyone's going to get to 1500-2k MMR easily.

Get to 1500 easily yes. Get to 2k is also easy ? My understanding is that you don't really lose rating until you hit 1500. Do they change that to be 2k ? So you don't really lose much ratings until you hit 2k.

[Ualaa]

I would hope that PUGs become rampant on the servers.
Something like: "/2 Looking for more, rated BG's, have 1200+ Resilience."

The average player has nothing to lose from a rated match.
And gets gear that is one season better.
So a pretty decent incentive to go the Rated Battleground route.

If we run enough rated BG's, we will eventually raise/fall to a rating where we play equivalent rated teams.
That is subject to enough teams queuing at the same time.
So most likely to be even/fair fights (for our own skill/coordination level) on Mon/Tue evenings and weekend afternoons.

[Mosg2]

I don't think any serious PvP'ers are going to do rated BG's for anything more than shits and giggles. I think, like Ualaa said, 90%+ of groups are just going to be auctioning in /2 for people with a minimum gear level and that's it. They're going to be disorganized and unruly--it's going to be similar to regular BG's but with a bit more coordination--And I mean a token, a trifle really.