10/25 box raid melee team

[doommachine]

Im seeking your guys advice. Im planning to multibox raids. 10box to start but hope to 25box eventually. I also want it to be mostly melee. What do you expect to be feasible in cataclysn raids? My current idea for 10 man is TANKS: prot war and prot paly. HEAL: holy priest and resto shaman. DPS: sv hunter, mut rogue x2, fury war and frost dk x2. Idea for 25 man isnt set and still has 2 open spots....TANKS: prot war, prot pally and blood dk. HEALS: resto druid x2 and resto shaman x4. DPS: sv hunter x3, mut rogue x3, fury war, frost dk x3, ret pally x2 and frost mage. Any thoughts on this guys? Also a few other questions... Are bear tanks too difficult to multibox with in raids? I havent found much of anything on them besides all druid groups in 5mans... Why are the top guilds switching too DK tanks and would the reason for it justify having a DK tank in 10 or 25 man? And finaly... Would it be a good idea or even worth it to max 2 professions on every toon to get the extra benefits from them? Like tank BS/JC?

[Svpernova09]

What's your previous WoW raid experience?

[Kedash00]

i'd trade out the prot warrior for a bear or dk, or even another pally, warriors require alot of micro managment, and running 10 toons you are going to have your handsfull anyways. Both pally and DK are easy to macro through castsequence, and both are aoe tanks, if you do use that combo i would suggest running the dk as the "main" and have the pally iwt.
Warriors seem to be superior in holding aggro for single targets but suck at aoe tanking, so if you do keep the warrior he will be good on bosses or loose adds, but i wouldn't make him the main tank, espically for pulling trash.
But in the end it's all up to you and what you find to be fun.

Other than that i can't really comment, i have always run casters as the dps with my groups.

[doommachine]

My raiding experience is mostly just icc. So a bear tank would be easy to multibox? Cuz from my experience theyre hard for me to tank with cuz i cant see anything. Lol. Guess that doesnt matter since it would be iwt? Also i was looking for insight into whether or not a mostly melee or all melee team would work or do i have to mix casters into it? Especialy if its 25 man? Thanks.

[Svpernova09]

My raiding experience is mostly just icc.

ICC isn't raiding. Anyone that told you it was lied to you. Cataclysm raids will cock punch you and hand you a large cup of shut the fuck up and a hot plate of sit the fuck down compared to ICC. ICC was Candyland. There's cataclsym heroics that are harder than most ICC fights. I'm not going to tell you that Cataclysm raids aren't boxable. I'll leave that to boxers that have actually boxed shit before it was candy coated. I will tell you that you won't be clearing Cata raids on level with you boxing 25 toons. There's too many mechanics that would just blow your mind trying to work out a strategy for, and honestly, you don't seem to have the capacity to properly theorycraft it.

Consider this a wake up call that just because you've watched some videos, raided some cheese content while wielding a hot knife that you really don't have any idea what you're trying to get yourself into. There's a a reason Sam is shunned on these forums. It's because he's made a WoW career out of trolling the fuck out of people who don't know any better and blatantly ignoring advice he's asked for just because it wasn't done that way in another game. So sure, go to Sam for answers, it'll very much be the blind leading the legally blind.

[doommachine]

@svpernova To say its impossible is one thing. To say i dont have the capacity is downright hilarious.

[outdrsyguy1]

I personally think your going to get pwnd. whatever aoe the boss throws out at one random person will always hit most of your team if they are melee. Good luck to you! I personally like the idea of melee but haven't had much luck with it. Inevitably a couple of IWT melee run off an pull agro or get stuck on stuff or get out of range, it's just more to manage unfortuneatly.

[Kedash00]

if you are set on doing 25 mans, you are going to have to throw some casters in it, most of the fights in wolk had casters doing something, and melee doing something else, in many raids.

Casters are easy though, you can get them all setup and positioned for the most part before the fight even begins, then if you need to move them just /follow then hit your spread out keys and they are set back up. really easy compared to melee in my opinion.

Another way to play if you dont want to be the tank and can't see what's going on, you can have your main setup as say, your main healer, and you can run around and see more of the fight that's going on, and just use iwt for both your tanks, this will give you better perspective on the given fight, it takes some getting used to to play like that, i had alot of success in lower level battegrounds with a shammy+4 warriors and i controled the healer, was when we first got to use iwt but i haven't played with it much since then.
Was really fun though, a different way to play.

[doommachine]

@outdrsy The main reason i want to do both a mostly melee team plus it be 25man raiding it cuz i want it to be more challenging. I can always bring in an extra healer or 2 and just keep tinkering with it til it works. If the melee idea proves to be too hard to be fun i can always switch to mostly casters. If 25man is too hard to be fun i can always do 10man. Im going to level over 40 toons with RAF so ill make sure i have plenty of extra healers and casters sitting around to rotate in.

[doommachine]

@kedash Controlling everything from the main healer sounds like a great idea. Also would i need 2 or 3 tanks for 25 man? What would the ratio of melee/caster need to be? 10 melee/5 caster, 7-8 of each or like 5 melee/10 caster?