25 boxing, what computer is needed?

[MiRai]

I would say 16GB+ triple channel @ at LEAST 1600.

Why do you recommend DDR3 1600? What's wrong with 1066, which is exactly at what i7's are rated to run at?

Going from "aspiring multiboxer" to 25-boxer is an unrealistic goal. If you truly 25-box some day, you will almost certainly do that across multiple PCs, not a single PC.

It makes more sense to build a good 5-10 client computer and learn to multibox on a 5x team right now. You don't level all 25 at once, anyhow. You'd level them in smaller teams and combine them once at max level.

I have to echo others' sentiments, as well. There is no point in 25-boxing. All the PvE content you could care to do is achievable with a 10-character team and the gear rewards are identical.

Exactly this. The more characters you add to a team the less efficient it becomes. To also note, I highly doubt you could
build a computer that would handle 25 instances of WoW like you want it to. I can load about 11 game instances on my
Q9550 with my main on Ultra settings and the other 10 looking at the ground with tiny screens and the lowest graphics.
Sure, there is newer hardware out there now but if you have to jam 24 other screens somewhere while boxing a PvE raid,
how are you going to see who is standing in fire and who isn't?

Even building a dual CPU system is a complete waste of money to just play WoW on, especially when it would cost
probably close to $5000 at least. You could easily build multiple systems for less than $5000 for the sole purpose of just
running slave screens on.

EDIT: OP replied to his own thread before this, leaving the reply anyway.

[HPAVC]

Its an interesting thought experiment, but I encourage you to Safety Dance a few times with just your 5 box rig now and get the feel for how this isn't a hardware issue at all. Just replicate a simple 5box setup and your done.

You might also preface these questions as thought experiments or what not.

[Lpwned]

Why do you recommend DDR3 1600? What's wrong with 1066, which is exactly at what i7's are rated to run at?

1066 is with a locked multiplier. It is not the fastest that an I7 can handle.

I disagree that a system could not be built to handle 25 wow windows looking forward. The SB EX will support 8 cores (16 threads) and 4 sockets (64 threads) with a memory limit in the terabytes.

I do however agree that such a system would be massively inefficient on the cost side.

[Trushot]

1066 is with a locked multiplier. It is not the fastest that an I7 can handle.

I disagree that a system could not be built to handle 25 wow windows looking forward. The SB EX will support 8 cores (16 threads) and 4 sockets (64 threads) with a memory limit in the terabytes.

I do however agree that such a system would be massively inefficient on the cost side.

im a little slow on pc knowledge sometimes ... are you saying basically if you do not plan to Overclock there is no need to buy more than 1066 ram for a 6 core i7 chip ?

i was looking at 1600 becuase the MB i was looking at supported 1600 without overclocking ... but didnt realize I7 chip limited it by default to less than that ?

am i reading what yall are saying correctly that any ram over 1066 is a waste with an I7 chip even if MB states it can go up to 1600 wthout Overclocking

[Lpwned]

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are you saying basically if you do not plan to Overclock there is no need to buy more than 1066 ram for a 6 core i7 chip ?

Let me double check this with some colleagues. Its gets really complicated as the Front Side Buss is no more. Processors are moving to a new architecture.
Any of the I7s can be over clocked if you know how to. The 6 core just makes it nice and easy to do. Intel knows that if you are dropping that much on a CPU, chances are you have some crazy thermal solution, and will OC it.

So I just talked this over with a coworker. The 6 core uses a QPI, the rest still use FSB. They will likely all default to 1066, but changing them to 1600 is easy and does NOT require you to OC anything else or have an aftermarket thermal solution.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Reguardless I would not spend extra for faster ram, system ram is not the bottleneck, and probably never will be, for playing wow, money is better spent on more ram or SSD.


Yur guy is wrong Lpwned, all i7's based on X58 use the QPI buss, there is no FSB ....

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2773

You can't run 25 on one computer cause you can't get 25 clients worth of video data to and from the SSD/HD to system ram to the video card at even 20fps .... YOu gonna have 2G/25 of video ram for each client lol .... whats that less then 100M per client, way to much swapping beteen the GPU and system ram (assuming you don't have to go to HD/SSD which isnt true either).

[MiRai]

im a little slow on pc knowledge sometimes ... are you saying basically if you do not plan to Overclock there is no need to buy more than 1066 ram for a 6 core i7 chip ?

i was looking at 1600 becuase the MB i was looking at supported 1600 without overclocking ... but didnt realize I7 chip limited it by default to less than that ?

am i reading what yall are saying correctly that any ram over 1066 is a waste with an I7 chip even if MB states it can go up to 1600 wthout Overclocking

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=37150

Scroll down to "Memory Specifications." DDR3 800 - 1066. People will buy RAM with a little bit of a higher clock so the
chips aren't running at 100% speed all the time. Other people just buy shit and have no idea WTF those numbers
really mean. Even Intel's current flagship model with 6 cores and 32nm architechture, the 980X, is rated at DDR3 1066.

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Let me double check this with some colleagues. Its gets really complicated as the Front Side Buss is no more. Processors are moving to a new architecture.
Any of the I7s can be over clocked if you know how to. The 6 core just makes it nice and easy to do. Intel knows that if you are dropping that much on a CPU, chances are you have some crazy thermal solution, and will OC it.

So I just talked this over with a coworker. The 6 core uses a QPI, the rest still use FSB. They will likely all default to 1066, but changing them to 1600 is easy and does NOT require you to OC anything else or have an aftermarket thermal solution.

Any Core i7 9xx processor [Socket 1366] uses QPI and Xeons are equipped with Dual QPI so they can be
used in boards with multiple CPU sockets and communicate with each other. Socket 1156 [and Atom] uses DMI.