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    Is the second boss doable on heroic if an add gets fully charged by the beam? What if you have 2 charged adds up at once?

    My non-heroic solution was to swarm the boss near the one add, while the other add charged up (or weave back and forth to delay it a little longer, then just tank the add while finishing the boss.

    On heroic, with the 2nd and 3rd adds close together, I'm hoping I can swarm their locations long enough to get the boss down, even with the 1st add charging to full and attacking.
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    If anyone gets 100 stacks they get MCd and it's a wipe. If any of the adds get 100 stacks they
    Evolve and it's a wipe. Easiest way I found is setup the 2 chars that will be beam tanking
    the side beams. Have them target their add and line them up so they are straight on.
    Then get your other 2 chars wherever you are comfortable with (remember there is a fear). I have
    also stacked 2 toons on each side and like that positioning it's really up to you.

    Finally get your tank and be ready to pull. Use IWT at the start of the fight to get
    your side beam tanks in position while moving your tank up to get threat and beam tank the
    center add. MAKE SURE YOUR SIDE BEAMS ARE IN POSITION. Failing to
    get into the beams right away will cause a wipe. Next use quick
    IWT and keypress back to face the side guys to the boss so that they are looking across from each
    other. At 80 stacks keypress forward out of the beams. Continue dpsing till the debuff
    is about to fall off and keypress back into the beams. Do this 4 or 5 times
    And you got her down.

    Remember to interrupt the fear or stagger tremors. Beam positioning is
    More important than dpsing. Worry about the beams first and dpsing 2nd.


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    I have tried this with my team and I simply lack dps. I manage to get him to 30% but in the end, I just can't dps him down from 100% to 66% and then from 66% to 33% without having 2 quakes, which is recommended. Also in order to make the adds die, they must remain near the boss so the tank basically has to stay. I have worked down a tactic for that and worked good. Just need more dps. Basically the tank eats the cleave but uses the cooldown (50% dmg reduct on 66%. then 40% dmg reduct for 33%), which guarantees the adds to eat his cleave.

    Yes I tried to burn the adds down but they have too much hp, and I think the cleave killing the boss works better. Will try again when I manage to get more upgrades for my team. Yes I have even pulled off bloodlust from start, but then fail at 66%-33%. When using bl at 66% I fail 90% of the time on 100%~66% phase.

    P.S. My dps was around 8k~10k. Mage being first, warlock second, shaman third. Once I get everyone to do 10K+ dps would be much easier.
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    Have you tried using pain sup on first cleave to get the adds down... Then tanking cooldown on the 2nd?

    Then saving your 2 20% dmg reductions for after quakes so the tank takes less dmg with adds on them?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoah35 View Post
    I have tried this with my team and I simply lack dps. I manage to get him to 30% but in the end, I just can't dps him down from 100% to 66% and then from 66% to 33% without having 2 quakes, which is recommended. Also in order to make the adds die, they must remain near the boss so the tank basically has to stay. I have worked down a tactic for that and worked good. Just need more dps. Basically the tank eats the cleave but uses the cooldown (50% dmg reduct on 66%. then 40% dmg reduct for 33%), which guarantees the adds to eat his cleave.

    Yes I tried to burn the adds down but they have too much hp, and I think the cleave killing the boss works better. Will try again when I manage to get more upgrades for my team. Yes I have even pulled off bloodlust from start, but then fail at 66%-33%. When using bl at 66% I fail 90% of the time on 100%~66% phase.

    P.S. My dps was around 8k~10k. Mage being first, warlock second, shaman third. Once I get everyone to do 10K+ dps would be much easier.
    I found this to be a difficult fight personally, but I eventually got it. Here's what I do which you may find helpful:

    1. Never take a quake. As soon as he starts casting, strafe out. I always strafe left on all toons. In particular, if you get the chains down fast enough you'll never get caught.
    2. Set the same key that you target the chains with '/tar chains' to broadcast to your mage's frost nova ability. When he casts chains, just spam that. Your mage will frost nova holding almost all of the adds in place. Once the chains are down, strafe out. The boss will then kill all the nova'ed adds.
    3. The hardest part for me is: After strafing, often after a chains, getting the group to a reasonable location and facing the boss is hard. You could IWT it, but what I do is just run up to the boss, hit 'all follow' and then have them back up a touch. At this point you're a bit scattered so at least 1 or 2 will get hit by a quake, but you gotta pay attention because if they all get hit it's a lot to heal.

    That's basically it. After much trial and error for me I can do this fight. Also thanks to Toned for the many tips.

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    If you blow the chains up you can auto follow and avoid the cleave. If your dps is low you have to strafe to survive or the stragglers on autofollow will get pwned.

    Strafe out of Quake = Key... Try to avoid healing the tank when you are MS'd if your healer mana is an issue.

    Frost Nova / EarthBind rooting adds = Good strat if you lack the aoe cleave.


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    Been gearing up my team, my tank is pretty much geared up, same goes with my healer. DPS are still gearing but I will try a few goes after I finish getting another piece of gear from JPs.

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