Intel kicks the crap out of AMD procs

[MiRai]

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20207

This new Gigabyte motherboard has nothing to do with what you're quoting or this thread.

Notice what this guy says:


shank15217
Jan 710:34 PM
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Sandy bridge shoots it self in the foot with the integrated PCI-e controller (just like annandale). Its a high end cpu with very limited I/O options. Making a high end board with Sandy Bridge is an oxymoron. High end platforms need flexible and large bandwidth not unlike a server platform. Socket 1366 was good platform and X58 chipset deserves a replacement. AMD has a really strong opening if they can release their desktop bulldozer with 880FX/990FX (most advanced, highest bandwidth desktop chipset in the market right now). At the super high end, pci-e bandwidth matters and connectivity options matter even more so than raw cpu speed.Edited 1 time(s). Last edit by shank15217 on Jan 7 at 10:34 PM.

I don't know; looking and SB and looking at BD I kinda liking BD better:

http://www.techpowerup.com/129392/AM...ture.html?cp=9



Clearly two obvious errors for SB; the onchip gpu and the onchip pci-e.

Look at the pics of the BD architecture; just as stright forward as can be.

Also the first BD's will be out in April; lets see what the situation is by March.

What the hell is annandale? Did he mean Arrandale, the mobile Intel chips? I'm not sure I understand what the problem
is here... I mean, the 1156 platform had the same on-die PCIe controller as well, which had the same hardware limitation
of 16 PCIe lanes total. I didn't see anyone bitching about it back then, but all of a sudden it becomes a big deal with SNB?
As we can all see HERE, the difference between 8x and 16x means dick, so don't worry about the 16 lane hardware limitation.

The guy you quoted makes it sound as if SNB's 1155 is handicapped because of the fact that you can't have a "high end"
motherboard or because of the on-die PCIe controller [or combination of the two]. Socket 1156 was priced mid-range
[mainstream] and it is no secret that 1366 had the higher end hardware setups. Socket 1155 is following suit, and I
consider it mid-range as well seeing as it is just 1156 "suped up." Hell, you can even plug your 1156 processors into
ASRock's new 1155 board and they'll work.

I don't go out of my way to call people out, but it seems like you're attempting to portray SNB as sub-par by quoting a
random person from the comments section of a hardware review, when every benchmark shows Intel on top. It's almost
like saying that your Uncle's friend's mother's brother, who knows someone on the 'inside,' said that all of SNB, present
and future, is crap because the socket 1155 on-die PCIe controller, which isn't new, has a hardware limitation of 16
lanes. If you want a high-end system, build it with a high-end socket that supports it [*cough*LGA 2011*cough*]. If you
want a mid-range system, build it with a mid-range socket that supports it. It's just that simple...

I'm not knocking on AMD in any way, shape, or form. In fact, I'm hoping they do well because it will give Intel a reason to
drop their prices. If Bulldozer is barely on par with the current SNB 1155 processors, you can expect that Intel's new 22nm
Ivy Bridge will be priced nice and high. Oh, and don't hate on Intel for high prices, AMD did the same shit back in the day.