Invincible PVE Group (A New Twist on a Classic)

[gunsun]

So I decided to try Blackrock Caverns.

Wiped twice on the first boss trying to be clever and heal through his chains ability instead of dpsing them down. That was pretty dumb. Other than that I face rolled the place in all Wrath gear, average gs of 5.2k on all toons. Lost a toon on a couple boss fights but no other wipes.

Second boss (caster lady i think) I could aoe tank the two adds and heal through damage, shaman were still able to dps as they healed. So it was a one-button fight.

Third boss (flame armor guy) I could passive heal through aoe and didn't need any heals at all. Trained him into flame, dps, repeat, repeat, dead. Also a one-button fight.

Dog boss I lost the druid to a poorly managed fear, but other than that, just a tank and spank.

Fifth boss I pulled too early by walking in close, lost the mage, but recovered and dropped him.

With drops that were upgrades and some experience I don't think I'll lose anyone on the second attempt.

[valle2000]

The reason the resto shaman macro works as well as it does is that riptide has a 6 sec CD and it also stacks. Two of them, plus earth shield are all the heals you need on the tank. (I also earth shield the mage.) Shocks also have 5-6 sec cooldowns, so the two castsequences chain together well. You cast riptide when it is up and you spam lightning bolts most of the time..

So if I understand correct, for it to work you need spells with cool downs?

And using emtpy cast slots like
/castsequence smite,,smite
to make time for a heal spell doesn't work any more right?

[Ualaa]

Commas as delays don't work anymore.
They cause a castsequence to lock up and not advance.

Depending on the class, you could put something in like Water Shield, which is a GCD and a delay in the macro, without hurting you.

[gunsun]

Commas don't work.

You don't need cooldowns for it to work, it just works really well because of them, a nice coincidence. The combination allows one resto shaman to do nice damage for a healer. Multiple by 2 and it's like you have 1 dps with bad gear.

[Ualaa]

Not sure how well it will work, but you've inspired me to try a new PvE group.
They'll be the fourth set to level, so not going to be 85th anytime soon.

Blood DK Tank, because four of my five DK's will go Frost for the new team.
And the Paladin (Prot) will be leaving my PvE team, to join the 4x DK's.

Go with the Resto Shaman and Disc Priest, for dual healing power.
The Disc will bring PW: Shield, Pain Suppression and mostly Smite spam to the team.
The Resto gets Earth Shield and will be the primary healer.

Then going with a Mage and Warlock as the DPS.
Aside from the DK, everyone is ranged to make things a bit easier.

Should CC's be needed, the team will have a few.
DK - Hungering Cold
Mage - Polymorph
Priest - Shackle Undead
Shaman - Hex
Warlock - Banish/Seduce

I think it will be a nice change from Prot Pally, Demo Lock and 3x Elemental Shammies.
Plus that will free 4x Shaman, to run battlegrounds as a 4x group.

[Redbeard]

Im going to give this a try but with a disc main healer and a holy pally backup... I was going to make my holy pally the main healer but im a bit nervous about his group healing capabilities. Ill let the disc priest do his thing and let the holy pally boost that through good self healing, and 2 target healing with bacon of light.

Well see if it works.

[gunsun]

Just an update . . .

My guys are about 84 so I haven't done the 84 instances.

As far as the first 4 heroics go, I walked over everything but the last boss in stonecore. I think my firenova's are too weak to do anything for that and I'm going to try off-specing to frost mage/2 elem shaman/resto dru just for that fight.

As far as everything else goes, the team plays itself.

They can absorb a massive amount of punishment, and the frost mage/mana tide totems/innervate allow me to even brute force healing packs. I just wait for their mana to run out. Not the best way to play, but when the cc breaks or you're learning a new pull it is nice.

I'll update after I try the 3 84-85 instances.

[Bollwerk]

You did 4 heroics at 84? Don't you have to be 85?
=)

[Maxion]

Hearing about a mage, I assume your first post is out of date.
Also, be warned that the step up in difficulty from normal to heroic in cata is a lot more brutal than in wrath.
You have been warned, good luck.

Though I do think double healer will be decent for cata heroics since bosses usually don't have an enrage timer as far as I've heard.

[Multibocks]

Some have indirect enrage timers like filling the room with bad stuff that you can't heal through, but most are without them like Vanessa Vancleef. If you can do the rope swing you can take as long as you like to kill her