Invincible PVE Group (A New Twist on a Classic)

[gunsun]

Well, I might regret this and should have taken a break a few hours ago . . .

But I swapped out the elem shaman with a mage. The passive heals are a lot stronger than I had thought (still a little over 1k a tick) and I have 2 earth shields, so I think the mage won't be a liability. And now I have one of each armor type.

I'm stress testing by being an idiot in heroics with bad pulls and not dpsing bosses to see how much aoe I can absorb.

[Redbeard]

Sounds like a fun group, I love the fact that blizz added ways for all the healers to throw in dps.

Im working on something similar to Owls' 4 disc priests, im throwing in 1 elly shaman to ramp up the damage of smite. Hoping the group will still be very survivable. Unfortunately theyre only level 17 right now and though ill work on them this weekend, they wont be remotely near 80 by Tuesday.. oh well, i still have my main group =P

Let us know how it goes!

[Ualaa]

Still... a pair of Resto Shammies, can easily dual-spec.
If you need the damage, for an enrage timer or stacking debuff...

If you're using IS Boxer, have some toggles to add/remove a toon from the healer group to the DPS group.
Any other software could simply go with keybindings... 1) everyone DPS's; 2) everyone except both Resto's; 3) One resto only, the other is a healer this fight.

I really like, not focusing on healing at all.
Just kill the mobs, with the one button spam.
And concentrate on movement or whatever the mechanic/trick is for the fight.

I'd hate the slower kill speed, because two resto's looks to be lower dps than one DPS type.
So that is the trade off: longer runs, slower boss kills.

[Mokoi]

a war5lock would be better than a boomkin. more survivable, and more DPS.

I have both, I prefer the lock by a huge margin.

[shadewalker]

Battle Rez? Inervate? Off-tank if you need? MoW so your Pally can cast might? Extra hots in case of emergency. I still see a lot more utility from a Druid.

Yea the dps is lower but I want to look at the big picture for my entire team here. Granted, My lock is still a lowbie while i have 2 druids at 80, so I might have a biased outlook on this. But i guess that is just my opinion.

[pinotnoir]

You can always have 1 of the 2 resto shamans go elemental and offheal if needed. My pve group has a holy priest and elemental shaman. When I first started doing heroics it helped a ton having the shaman join the healing if I was taking a beating.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I didn't know riptide stacks lol ...... I hadn't been using it on my main cause then chain heal kills it and I been using chain heal a lot.

I think Ill just stack up riptides on the main and cast chain heals inbetween targeting the mages. If I ever get my whole crew up I think 7 riptides should be sufficient ....

[gunsun]

Yeah, riptide stacks and it is amazing, especially with Earth Shield. Even on Marrowgar I very seldom needed another heal on the tank.

The Druid dps is a little lower than the elem shaman. I haven't found a good way to bump it up, but the rest of the utility aspects that shadewalker mentions are incredibly handy. I've also swapped out the elem shaman for a mage, so my overall dps is higher than it was.

Also, I've accepted that Boomkin are a hybrid mage/lock, with a couple nukes and a couple dots. So, on trash, they do a lot less overall dps but on boss fights they fair better. I've started using recount as per fight only to get a better feel for team performance.

My two resto-shaman, combined, will occasionally out dps the boomkin. They have two shocks in their rotation though and the boomkin is forever casting.

It's funny seeing resto-dps his 22-24% while the boomkin is around 20%. I could do that in ICC10, on trash, without needed direct heals other than my riptide/earthshied/lightning bolt/shocks macro.

[gunsun]

I was just talking to a friend, and I think it's important to point out that this is a survival strategy. So giving up 10% dps isn't that big of a deal. There is no dps race to nuke things down. Boss fights might be a min or two longer, but they are a lot easier to play.

[Ualaa]

A druid could heal (no matter what their spec), and has both normal rez and battle rez.
That's more survivability then the mage.

Warlock has a healthstone and a soulstone, and more versatile crowd control.
Compared to the druid at least.

Mage is only DPS, but is strong in that.
And has a nice CC too.