Mosg2's DK Manifesto

[JackBurton]

I only see one DK's runes with Pitbull. My (masters) runes. Does anyone know of a good frame addon that will show me all the dks runes?

[Ualaa]

Not sure off-hand.

But, if you use the priority system, which is essentially mashing six keys together.
You can prioritize which are cast, because there are more of a given spell than another spell.

At the same time, you don't need to micro manage your runes.
Which would be a real pain, with four Death Knights.
Honestly, it is a lot easier to mash one key (which is six keys), than to manage runes independently on four DK's.



Sorry if my answer basically dismisses your question.
Was not my intention to do so, but that is my take on the rotation and tracking runes.
I'm not sure of an addon that will do that.

[Noids]

With the thoughts on switching to unholy as of 4.0.6 what are people thinking for rotations then.

Playing on test I haven't really found a good priority system as with frosties so I have been running a castsequence.

Basically open with diseases, icy touch and plague strike. I have actually been trying glyphed chains of ice to get frost plague on which only costs 1-2k damage but gets the snare on ASAP. For my blood rune I have been using pestilence first up to help with the aoe pressure component that unholy lack over frost.

Once diseases are up the rotation is just festering strike, necrotic strike/scourge strike. I use death coil as a drop through off the castsequence.

Not sure if this will operate as efficiently as the priority system we have with frost currently when we are in PvP. On dummies it works great and with the pet gives me an extra 25-30% dps over a frost build, but in effect, it is quite dependant on getting diseases up first and staying in melee range.

Interested to know what other people are thinking of using if the switch to unholy is made.

[Mosg2]

I've got a sustained 10k DPS single target priority one-button setup on live that works great. I'll be spending the next few hours testing it and optimizing but then I'll post'em here.

[Mosg2]

All right, here we go with the Unholy single target DPS mash. I've played with it a lot over the past week and I went at it again today--I just can't seem to squeeze any more DPS out of an Unholy rotation. What I get with this mash is comparable to what I get when I play the character solo manually doing the buttons. To me, that's a pretty good indication that something is as efficient as you can make it. In any case, here we go:

/castsequence reset=target/combat Chains of Ice, Plague Strike, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation

/castsequence reset=target/combat Chains of Ice, Plague Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike

/castsequence reset=target/combat Chains of Ice, Plague Strike, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil

/castsequence reset=target/combat Chains of Ice, Plague Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike

So, here's what happens. I have one of each button on my mash lineup of seven keys except the Scourge Strike one, which has four copies. The Dark Transformation macro is on the downpress button. Each of these castsequences advances to the next step when any are pushed--Which means you're guaranteed to get a Chains of Ice and then a Plague Strike on a target from each of your DK's followed by spamming Scourge Strike, Death Coil, Festering Strike and Dark Transformation with Scourge Strike and Dark Transformation 'preferred' via one being on downpress and one having multiple copies.

I get about 9800 single target dps on the 85 dummy and a spike up to 11k or so once their pets enrage.

The problems as I see them:

1) This rotation does not 'automate' usage of your Gargoyle. To me this is something that *must* be fixed. We need a system that will first get 5 stacks of Shadow Infusion on your ghoul, enrage it and then only use Runic Power for your Gargoyle unless it's on cooldown. I haven't played with this at all--I think it'll be doable. Somehow

2) This rotation gets out of sync if you're on the target too long. Since the Scourge Strike macros advance much faster than the Death Coil and Festering Strike macro you will get points where you will Chains of Ice and then Plague Strike off of your Scourge Strike macro and then moments later do them again via your Festering Strike or Death Coil macro. In practice this should never happen--You will never need to be on a single target so long that both macros would cycle around I tried to fix this but lost serious DPS in the process.

3) Once the patch hits (and arguably even now) Unholy is one of the most bloated talent trees of any class. It's going to be hard to get everything you need (Endless Winter plus 3/3 Bladed Armor) while still grabbing all the DPS talents out of Unholy.

Thoughts?

[tanknspanker]

soooo, I just dinged 85 with the team ^^ tried some arena was crappy (ofc)
but my question was, what starterweap were u using and did you fully grind bg's for the pvp set ? or just some parts?


greetingz

[Mosg2]

I started with the CoC weapon and ground ALL of the honor gear. I upgraded to the Conquest weapon on week two.

[tanknspanker]

I started with the CoC weapon and ground ALL of the honor gear. I upgraded to the Conquest weapon on week two.

thx for the fast reply ;-)
its just a pitty i only dinged today and not earlier, alot of people are already good geared .. and stupid combo's are being formed..
like 4 frost mages and a holadin

greetingz

[Shodokan]

All right, here we go with the Unholy single target DPS mash. I've played with it a lot over the past week and I went at it again today--I just can't seem to squeeze any more DPS out of an Unholy rotation. What I get with this mash is comparable to what I get when I play the character solo manually doing the buttons. To me, that's a pretty good indication that something is as efficient as you can make it. In any case, here we go:

/castsequence reset=target/combat Chains of Ice, Plague Strike, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation, Dark Transformation

/castsequence reset=target/combat Chains of Ice, Plague Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike

/castsequence reset=target/combat Chains of Ice, Plague Strike, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil, Death Coil

/castsequence reset=target/combat Chains of Ice, Plague Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike, Festering Strike

So, here's what happens. I have one of each button on my mash lineup of seven keys except the Scourge Strike one, which has four copies. The Dark Transformation macro is on the downpress button. Each of these castsequences advances to the next step when any are pushed--Which means you're guaranteed to get a Chains of Ice and then a Plague Strike on a target from each of your DK's followed by spamming Scourge Strike, Death Coil, Festering Strike and Dark Transformation with Scourge Strike and Dark Transformation 'preferred' via one being on downpress and one having multiple copies.

I get about 9800 single target dps on the 85 dummy and a spike up to 11k or so once their pets enrage.

The problems as I see them:

1) This rotation does not 'automate' usage of your Gargoyle. To me this is something that *must* be fixed. We need a system that will first get 5 stacks of Shadow Infusion on your ghoul, enrage it and then only use Runic Power for your Gargoyle unless it's on cooldown. I haven't played with this at all--I think it'll be doable. Somehow

2) This rotation gets out of sync if you're on the target too long. Since the Scourge Strike macros advance much faster than the Death Coil and Festering Strike macro you will get points where you will Chains of Ice and then Plague Strike off of your Scourge Strike macro and then moments later do them again via your Festering Strike or Death Coil macro. In practice this should never happen--You will never need to be on a single target so long that both macros would cycle around I tried to fix this but lost serious DPS in the process.

3) Once the patch hits (and arguably even now) Unholy is one of the most bloated talent trees of any class. It's going to be hard to get everything you need (Endless Winter plus 3/3 Bladed Armor) while still grabbing all the DPS talents out of Unholy.

Thoughts?

you had a null setup to prevent that before, what happened to it?

[Nsaeyn]

also where is the necrotic strike going in? Is this not setup the same way in isboxer any more?