Mosg2's DK Manifesto

[Mercbeast]

Blood elf, in fact I disagree with Shodokan in that I think BE is the single best race for the comp.

5, instant AoE silences > free trinket IMO.

[Noids]

Dinged 85 with my 4 DK priest team over the weekend and had a chance to play some BGs and Arenas and had a few thoughts/questions to discuss.

First of all, the holy priest does great in BGs and OK in arenas unless focussed. The Guardian Spirit self cast gives some pretty decent survival and buys some time for the DKs to cause some damage and then wen the priest dies, Spirit of Redemption gives me a good 12s of uninterrupted healing.

I am struggling to put out a decent amount of damage at this stage though as well as finding it hard to keep the DKs up. I am still a bit slow at the defensive cooldowns for arenas but when I review the end of game stats, I have often done more damage, a similar amount of healing but gotten maybe 1 kill.

I am just in the crafted PvP gear at the moment with 3 pieces of honour gear and Crucible of Carnage Weapons all round. Is this simply a gear issue at this stage do you think? My guys buffed have about 110k health with about 1.8k res and most of the toons I am coming up against are around 130k health.

Did you guys find you had to farm a fair bit of honour gear up before you started becoming effective in arena or was it instant faceroll? :P

For what its worth, I have started levelling the shams up now also with a pally tank for PvE healer for PvP. When they are 85 I might play around with the pally as an alternative healer.

[Toned]

Gear issue ... 90% of your battlegroup got free gear with the 1800 tol barad...

Keep on trucking hit conquest cap weekly + do some BG's and you'll get there. Buy your Vicious Glad 2handers first.

[Kromtor]

1800 tol barad... ugh. what were they thinking. every one has full honor suits so breaking into arenas now is much tougher for new teams. with my fledgling 4dk pally (wish i didnt go pally) team i'm having more victories playing endurance with 4 blood than with 4 frost... when you average 3k damage per HB you're not going to be killing anyone.

[Mercbeast]

The 1800 honor thing was retarded. I grinded my honor up legit, with a 12 minute queue. Then they made honor easy to get with that. Kind of silly.

[Noids]

My record now is 0-20 :/ Had one today against a newish team and got sown to a rogue and one of my DKs but ended up losing. Gonna find it hard to get to my weekly cap at this rate :P

Krom, why are you regretting the pally? I definitely find it a bit frustrating having the priest focussed fired and first down almost everytime. Even with the Spirit healing, once that is down my guys have to go without heals which generally means I almost always lose. I tend to do more damage than the other team, but sometimes the priest only gets out 100k heals before death.

[Mosg2]

A few thoughts:

The Tol Barad honor was insane. Everyone who abused the bridge now has a full set of honor gear and most people, if they were smart, have the Conquest weapon(s) at this point. That means you're like a month behind as far as gear goes. Maybe more. Don't feel bad if you're having a hard time initially--It's like that for every team.

BE is best for Horde and Human for Alliance--No point in comparing the two versus each other

My Paladin is completely geared at this point with some serious reforging and his throughput is insane. Overall I wish I had a geared Priest and a geared Shaman and a geared Druid to choose from but... shrug. I'm not sure if you can definitively say that one healer is better than another. Paladins have the best survivability and are equal if not the best for throughput with healing but can't help you much with Ring of Frost or Ice Block or Hand of Protection or Bubble. Priests are 10x easier to focus and shut down than the Paladin but your first non-Hunter target is a guaranteed kill. /shrug

I keep meaning to sit down and do another manifesto but I'm working 12 hour shifts 2 on/2 off during the holiday period and I'm exhausted. It's on my to do list

[Mercbeast]

My Paladin is done as well, DK's need like 2 pieces of honor gear each but I've been slacking since 12 minute queues just kill my drive to grind honor and I have been playing Civ 5 heavily during the Tol Barad period.

I rarely put out much healing with my paladin Noids and I have 3500 resilience. Just isn't much you can do when they lock you down, you can bubble but once bubble is done you're done.

Here is what you need to do. Get 197 spell penetration, that will help your HB's. Then you gotta just slog through the honor grind.

I've slotted 100% resil on all my characters at this point, and I have reforged to mastery on my DK's.

I haven't reforged on the paladin but I imagine haste is king.

[Mosg2]

Spirit/Crit are currently the best stats for the Paladin according to arenajunkies.

[Mercbeast]

Spirit/Crit are currently the best stats for the Paladin according to arenajunkies.

Ya, I just went and checked after I realized I hadn't reforged my paladin