Mosg2's DK Manifesto

[Mercbeast]

Ya, over the past week I came to basically the same conclusion as you. This team will be a wrecking ball. I'm really interested in how you setup your push down and release dps setup. I'm also interested in how you toggle IWT click to move off and on as you mentioned I'm still a pretty big newbie when it comes to setting up ISboxer macros.

[Ualaa]

I'm really interested in how you setup your push down and release dps setup. I'm also interested in how you toggle IWT click to move off and on as you mentioned I'm still a pretty big newbie when it comes to setting up ISboxer macros.

Create an Action Target Group, call it Melee.
Add all of your Melee toons to this group.



Now make a new mapped key (I put mine in the General Keymap).
Call it Melee IWT.
No hotkey, nothing in advanced.
One step, Actions:
Send (Your warcraft IWT keybind) to the current window.



Modify whichever mapped keys you use in the FTL DPS Keymap.
In my case, I've modified DPS 1 through DPS 3.

By default we have:
Hotkey: 1
Steps: 1
Actions:
- Do Mapped Key: FTL Assist Me, Target: Current Window
- Send "1" to all windows.

We want to change this a little.
Right click on Steps and add a second step.
Set the mapped key to execute a step on press and release.

Steps 1
Actions:
- Do Mapped Key: FTL Assist Me, Target: Current Window
- Do Mapped Key: Melee IWT, Target: Group (All Of) Melee [or whatever you called the ATG, from the first step.]

Step 2
Actions:
- Do Mapped Key: FTL Assist Me, Target: Current Window
- Send "1" to all windows.



Now we need to make a Toggle Macro, for the Melee IWT mapped key.

Create a mapped key (I put mine in General).
Call it Melee IWT Toggle.
Give it two steps.
Give it a hotkey, I use G6 (on my G15 keyboard).
Advanced, will be left alone.

Step 1
Actions:
- Pop Up Text, Current Window, Melee IWT Disabled
- Keymap Actions >> Mapped Key State Action >> General Keymap >> Melee IWT disabled (Target: All windows)

Step 2
Actions:
- Pop Up Text, Current Window, Melee IWT Enabled
- Keymap Actions >> Mapped Key State Action >> General Keymap >> Melee IWT enabled (Target: All windows).



This gets us...

IWT is spammed automatically, just by using our normal DPS Keys.
At least the ones which we've modified.
The IWT is only sent to members of our Melee group.

If we really wanted, we could have additional mapped keys, which would add or remove toons from this group.
The same principle could be used for a healer group, and our healer repeater region could target the healer ATG instead of sending the click to a specific toon.

We can also toggle the IWT off, via the last mapped key.
So when you don't want the toons to IWT spam, hit the hotkey once.
And now your DPS is normal, without IWT.
DPS 1... will still call the mapped key for IWT, but since it is disabled nothing happens, on that step.
You'll still get the "1" sent to all windows, after first assisting the active character.

[thedreameater]

Create an Action Target Group, call it Melee.
Add all of your Melee toons to this group.

Action Target Groups screw my toons up for some reason.

This is the second team I'm adding in ISBoxer. The first don't have a ATG. If I have my repeater disabled on the first team and hit the jump key, well, the repeater is off so the other toons don't jump. Only the first. WITH the ATG, all the toons jump, regardless of my repeater being disabled or not. All key sends are sent - which makes chatting and such impossible. Any idea?

Now make a new mapped key (I put mine in the General Keymap).
Call it Melee IWT.
No hotkey, nothing in advanced.
One step, Actions:
Send (Your warcraft IWT keybind) to the current window.

Modify whichever mapped keys you use in the FTL DPS Keymap.
In my case, I've modified DPS 1 through DPS 3.

By default we have:
Hotkey: 1
Steps: 1
Actions:
- Do Mapped Key: FTL Assist Me, Target: Current Window
- Send "1" to all windows.

We want to change this a little.
Right click on Steps and add a second step.
Set the mapped key to execute a step on press and release.

Steps 1
Actions:
- Do Mapped Key: FTL Assist Me, Target: Current Window
- Do Mapped Key: Melee IWT, Target: Group (All Of) Melee [or whatever you called the ATG, from the first step.]

Step 2
Actions:
- Do Mapped Key: FTL Assist Me, Target: Current Window
- Send "1" to all windows.

I set this up exactly, even with the ATG, and it doesn't work.






HALP!

EDIT - what I've been doing is hitting my dps keys (don't have any others set up like this, since 1 doesn't work) and mixing in my Interact w Target keymap; that is based off a key press of the Home button, which triggers the InteractwT key map. Thus, I know the InteractwT key map, noted above, works.

[Noids]

Action Target Groups screw my toons up for some reason.

This is the second team I'm adding in ISBoxer. The first don't have a ATG. If I have my repeater disabled on the first team and hit the jump key, well, the repeater is off so the other toons don't jump. Only the first. WITH the ATG, all the toons jump, regardless of my repeater being disabled or not. All key sends are sent - which makes chatting and such impossible. Any idea?



I set this up exactly, even with the ATG, and it doesn't work.






HALP!

EDIT - what I've been doing is hitting my dps keys (don't have any others set up like this, since 1 doesn't work) and mixing in my Interact w Target keymap; that is based off a key press of the Home button, which triggers the InteractwT key map. Thus, I know the InteractwT key map, noted above, works.

If Home is your hotkey for your IWT mapped key have you tried replacing the second action of the first step with calling the keyboard command "Home" with the target being your melee character?

I can't think why your ATGs aren't working properly. It almost sounds like you have a new keymap set up which is not part of your keymap toggle switch. If you setup an ATG an add your melee toons to it, this should not change your keymaps at all. Try doing this without changing any of your mapped keys first and see if it affects anything. If it does not, then try adding a new key using your melee ATG as the target and see what happens?

[thedreameater]

If Home is your hotkey for your IWT mapped key have you tried replacing the second action of the first step with calling the keyboard command "Home" with the target being your melee character?

I can't think why your ATGs aren't working properly. It almost sounds like you have a new keymap set up which is not part of your keymap toggle switch. If you setup an ATG an add your melee toons to it, this should not change your keymaps at all. Try doing this without changing any of your mapped keys first and see if it affects anything. If it does not, then try adding a new key using your melee ATG as the target and see what happens?

When I press Home, ISBoxer sends End to all my toons. End is set up to IWT in game. You're suggesting I send End to my toons, right? Wouldn't the target to be my current windows target, ie assist? Gonna try this as soon as I get home, solid idea (but not what Ualaa set up, which confuses me how it works for everyone else).

As for the ATG, I wonder if that is the origin of all my problems. I'm going to export my isboxer file and start fresh; see if that works.

Another question: when I have them target and unmoving target dummy and spam IWT they circle it like rabid dogs. If I do this to a mob, they tend to scatter and run off into random directions. Is this because of a combination of click to move and the mob moving? Is there a way to prevent it? Currently, I just hit follow to pull them back and hit IWT again to have them face the mob.

Thanks!

[Ualaa]

When I press Home, ISBoxer sends End to all my toons. End is set up to IWT in game. You're suggesting I send End to my toons, right? Wouldn't the target to be my current windows target, ie assist? Gonna try this as soon as I get home, solid idea (but not what Ualaa set up, which confuses me how it works for everyone else).

As for the ATG, I wonder if that is the origin of all my problems. I'm going to export my isboxer file and start fresh; see if that works.

Another question: when I have them target and unmoving target dummy and spam IWT they circle it like rabid dogs. If I do this to a mob, they tend to scatter and run off into random directions. Is this because of a combination of click to move and the mob moving? Is there a way to prevent it? Currently, I just hit follow to pull them back and hit IWT again to have them face the mob.

Thanks!

What I've done is:

1. Melee toons into a Melee ATG.
2. Mapped key, that sends IWT Keybind to the Current Window only.
3. Added a "Do Mapped Key", to my spam DPS that does this IWT mapped key, for all members of my Melee ATG.
4. Created another mapped key, two steps that enables/disables the inserted Do Mapped Key.

When #4 is on, I press my spam DPS key.
It does FTL Assist, Calls the IWT but only for the melee toons, and sends the DPS Key to all windows.

When #4 is off, I press my spam DPS key.
It does FTL Assist, Cannot call the IWT for melee toons as that mapped key is disabled, and still sends the DPS Key to all windows.

The reasoning for my setup like that, I spam the same key irregardless.
But can control whether the DPS swarm (IWT Spam) or not, via the toggle.



The scattering is because the mob is dead, but they're still moving towards it.
You could spam slower; I sometimes hit my normal follow key to end the IWT movement, and then IWT once and wait until the toons are in range and then spam away.
Or if swarming is desired behavior then IWT something else, click back on the mob/horde and IWT spam now from a distance so they'll swarm as they arrive.

[thedreameater]

What I've done is:

1. Melee toons into a Melee ATG.
2. Mapped key, that sends IWT Keybind to the Current Window only.
3. Added a "Do Mapped Key", to my spam DPS that does this IWT mapped key, for all members of my Melee ATG.
4. Created another mapped key, two steps that enables/disables the inserted Do Mapped Key.

When #4 is on, I press my spam DPS key.
It does FTL Assist, Calls the IWT but only for the melee toons, and sends the DPS Key to all windows.

When #4 is off, I press my spam DPS key.
It does FTL Assist, Cannot call the IWT for melee toons as that mapped key is disabled, and still sends the DPS Key to all windows.

The reasoning for my setup like that, I spam the same key irregardless.
But can control whether the DPS swarm (IWT Spam) or not, via the toggle.



The scattering is because the mob is dead, but they're still moving towards it.
You could spam slower; I sometimes hit my normal follow key to end the IWT movement, and then IWT once and wait until the toons are in range and then spam away.
Or if swarming is desired behavior then IWT something else, click back on the mob/horde and IWT spam now from a distance so they'll swarm as they arrive.

Got it - my IWT set up was flawed. I was using an IWT I set up a while back that toggled click to move on and off. Deleting that IWT with a new one (which assists current window in the first step, then send the IWT keybind (in game = END) just like a regular DPS keybind) worked.

Now, I need to figure out how to stop my toons from prioritizing corpses or each other when attacking.

I pull 4 mobs. One goes down, but they toons will never switch to the next mob (this doesn't happen with my ranged shaman). I click TAB to cycle to the next mob, it cycles for a second THEN GOES BACK TO THE DEAD MOB! I will wait a second or two before spamming attack again, but it always goes back to the dead mob. My current window is my pally tank (not in the melee ATG). Why is this happening and how do I prevent it?