Mosg2's DK Manifesto

[Ualaa]

I prioritize the Frost Strikes ahead of the Necrotic Strike.

The software does execute top down.
Even though you are essentially spamming six buttons, the earlier spells are sent first and have a higher chance to be cast then the later spells.

I'd ideally like a system where:
a) Howling Blast is cast, if there are available Frost Runes;
b) When there are no Frost Runes, Frost Strike if there is Runic Power;
c) When no Frost Runes or Runic Power, do a Blood Tap;
d) Necrotic Strike when all that fails;
e) and Blood Strike if a-d fails;
f) and Hungering Cold if everything else fails.

Cannot quite get that precise.
But the six buttons being spammed is pretty decent.




I like the Priest route too.

I initially set up the Priest to join the DK's.
Then set the Paladin up.
And have ended up going with the Priest.

While not as durable as the Paladin..
I like Mass Dispel, and the Priest is my favorite healer.

Playing the Healing, with a mixture of Follow the Healer and IWT is very different.
Still learning the keybinds for the team; unfortunately, use the same keybinds for several teams.
So Shift A, is both Bear Form and Death & Decay.
But focusing on two primary teams, instead of seven.. might be able to learn the keybinds a bit faster.




The Mind Freeze is basically...

You have the software withhold the sending of a given keystroke for the predetermined duration.
You still have to push each keystroke yourself.
It just won't do anything, until the elapsed time has passed.

If you could push the button.
Wait for the determined time to pass.
And have the software push the button which you had queued previously, that would be a delay and bannable.

But the reverse...
Specifically not allowing a pushed button to be sent, is not in violation of the ToS/EULA at all.
You still have to push each Mind Freeze yourself, so it's ok.

[ashlor]

http://pastebin.com/kHUQhj9N

Here are my teams key maps Shift 4-6 are Defensive CDs Ams lichborn and IBF F3 is mount then the RR for death grip and send next click for DnD
on my bars in order 1-6 HB/HB/HB/FS/FS/PS,BS (cast sequence)
hope they help you figure out what you got going on =)

[Slats]

Thanks for jumping on my server ashlor was good to chat.

This is the solution I ended up going with - which long story short is dong ask ISBoxer to send a million modifier combinations of the same key rapidly along with expecting it to do FTL well.

It seemed my game clients didn't like me using key combinations like Ctrl +7 Alt +7 etc the way I was. Because in Step 1 I was also calling FTL I think perhaps there wasn't enough time in between the FTL modifer call and the keys being sent. Possible latency issue as I'm in AU on about 350ms ping.

I instead changed it up a bit. On downkey I am doing:

FTL Assist > Self
Melee IWT > DK's
1 > DK's (HB/IT)

On up I'm doing:

1> DK's (HB/IT)
1> DK's (HB/IT)
4 > DK's (FS)
4> DK's (FS)
2 > DK's (PS/Necrotic)
3 > DK's (BS)
Shift [ > DK's. (Hungering Cold)

Set it up with F being the trigger key and my Mind Freeze RR set to F also.

Works beautifully, gained 2-300dps (@68 so no HB yet for me) and my MF goes off just about every time its up and Hungering goes off quite reguarly and randomly.

Very very pleased!

[JackBurton]

b) When there are no Frost Runes, Frost Strike if there is Runic Power;
c) When no Frost Runes or Runic Power, do a Blood Tap;

I know your probally just making a priority top to bottom setup but can you see party members runes from Pitbull4?

[Ualaa]

I was using Pitbull 3.x prior to the Warcraft 4.x patch... which broke Pitbull 3.x. I looked at Pitbull 4.x, but it didn't have all the options I wanted, or at least after several hours of messing around with it, I could not find them. So I went with another unit frame addon, pretty sure it was Shadowed Unit Frames... which the default profile had exactly what I couldn't find with the newer Pitbull. Pretty sure I was looking for the Target of my Party Members, as a dragable bar, so I could position all four of them in a vertical stack immediately beneath the party frames.

Pretty sure Pitbull could be configured to show party runes; if you're willing to dig deep enough, it's been able to do just about everything else... But I'd rather have a mashable sequence, which prioritizes (as closely as possible) HB > FS > NS > Other Moves... and just mash the sequence, and then worry about targeting the team for IWT and Healing... and not actively manage my DPS based on the runes available.

Frost Strike has a 45% chance to instantly replenish a spent rune. Which is why I'd like to Howling Blast > Frost Strike, as with only Frost Runes spent, those would automatically be the replenished rune. Blood Tap is on the GCD, so while I don't mind it being cast prior to combat, it is a burst loss in combat. Necrotic Strike is the other big ability, which I'd like to stagger 4x every 5 seconds, so they're regularly being applied at an even pace.

[JackBurton]

http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t110296-...3_stereo_love/

Worgen
The fact that they’re new is irrelevant; Worgen have, hands down, the best PvE racials of any Alliance (or, debatably, any) race. Visciousness provides a passive 1% crit, while Darkflight gives the utility of a 40% speed sprint every 3 minutes. The two just cannot be beat, and their value isn’t dependent on using a specific weapon type or gearing around a special stat cap.

Goblin
It shouldn’t come as any huge surprise that Goblins, being a brand new race, are much better than average. 1% increased attack/cast speed is quite decent, and a resource-free nuke (or, alternatively, blink) on a 2 minute cooldown is free dps, pure and simple. Easily the best horde race for Frost, although the competition isn’t exactly stellar, and they would easily lose out to Worgen and, potentially, Draenei.

Orc
Orcs are decent, but nothing stellar. 3 expertise when using an axe, 5% pet damage, and a 15s boost to AP every 2 minutes. Although that may all look good on paper, when you consider that the expertise boost is based on weapon itemization available, the pet boost is essentially meaningless for us, and the AP cooldown scales with level (1170 at 85) and not gear... well, it's nothing too special to say the least. Still, second best is better than last, and Orcs handily beat the rest of the horde races.

[Noids]

I chose gnomes for my DKs.

The logical part of this choice is the trinket free racial to escape snares which is sweet for melee classes.

The illogical part is the joy of seeing 4 small specs moving to and swarming a massive tauren and one shotting them :P

I do likt the fact that gnomes are slightly harder to click target in PvP also, but with arena bars this is negligible really.

I would suggest picking a race you enjoy playing rather than purely based on racials. In effect racials really only make 1% difference at best.

[Mercbeast]

http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t110296-...3_stereo_love/

Worgen
The fact that they’re new is irrelevant; Worgen have, hands down, the best PvE racials of any Alliance (or, debatably, any) race. Visciousness provides a passive 1% crit, while Darkflight gives the utility of a 40% speed sprint every 3 minutes. The two just cannot be beat, and their value isn’t dependent on using a specific weapon type or gearing around a special stat cap.

Goblin
It shouldn’t come as any huge surprise that Goblins, being a brand new race, are much better than average. 1% increased attack/cast speed is quite decent, and a resource-free nuke (or, alternatively, blink) on a 2 minute cooldown is free dps, pure and simple. Easily the best horde race for Frost, although the competition isn’t exactly stellar, and they would easily lose out to Worgen and, potentially, Draenei.

Orc
Orcs are decent, but nothing stellar. 3 expertise when using an axe, 5% pet damage, and a 15s boost to AP every 2 minutes. Although that may all look good on paper, when you consider that the expertise boost is based on weapon itemization available, the pet boost is essentially meaningless for us, and the AP cooldown scales with level (1170 at 85) and not gear... well, it's nothing too special to say the least. Still, second best is better than last, and Orcs handily beat the rest of the horde races.

Gotta disagree here. Any melee class that can be BE, should be BE. You ask on arena junkies or any "hardcore" WoW PvP'r and they will tell you the same. Arcane torrent is the premier racial pvp ability for a melee class.

[Mercbeast]

Got my PvP 2h swords tonight. I'm sitting around 3k resil on my DK's and 3.5k on my Paladin (just straight stacking resil atm).

I still have plenty of room for improvement play wise, but I am going to make an earnest attempt this week to push to my rating limit.

Starting to learn what to do and what not to do. I HATE blades edge and dalaran arenas, they are a massive handicap for melee boxing.

One tip I would like to pass on that I have found to be extremely useful is this.

When you are about to engage with the enemy, don't spam your IWT DPS spam, instead fire off your blood tap, then hit a hotkey bound for HB 3x as fast as possible, then hit your rune reset and fire off 2 more. While you are doing this, have your DK's follow you and run away from the other team. The key to this is to catch a minimum of 2 or 3 people in the majority of your HB's.

Most healers will go into panic mode and not be able to handle the fact most of their team just went from full to dead or <20% hp in a matter of 5 or 6s. I like to target what I think is the primary healer if possible because they will focus on healing themselves while you can quickly mop up any DPS that is near death.

This has been my most successful opening move and when I catch more than 2 people in the HB barrage I have not lost.

It is a pretty effective kite tactic and allows you to unload as much DPS as possible before the fight really even begins.

[Ualaa]

I like Blood Elves for horde.

From a mechanical point of view, the AoE silence is another excellent tool for the domination of casters.
The extra DPS for Goblins is probably superior, but I hate AoE fear and Spell Cleave as a boxer...

And from an aesthetic point of view, all my toons are female so Blood Elves are the premier horde option here.