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    It is no more automation, then anyone else who uses a castsequence on each of their toons.
    And has the macro on the same keybind for each.

    It is putting everything onto the boxing software, and doing basically none of your macro/attacks from within the game.
    But you could take each of those castsequences and make them into warcraft macros, drag them onto a key and mash that key.

    I like that you configure every class you would consider playing.
    And then you can just create a team with those toons on it, and drag some mapped keys onto the team (or add toons to ATG's for class), and the DPS is already set.
    If Blizzard changes a class mechanic, you would adjust one set of macros (within IS Boxer) rather than having to do it for each toon in warcraft.
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    Looks like the rotation on one key and procs on the other has become standard, wise strat by merc.

    Very excellent over all, ya changing just one macro instead of one for each guy is big time saving.

    Also one huge macro is a bit better then one for each ATG as then you cut down on the total number of key combo's as you need one for each macro, I'm about out.

    Not usefull for pvp though, should make another set using spells cast while moving, a fire mage casting fireball in pvp isn't going to live long.

    Might be a way to round robin something like this also making it usefull for me (don't want all shaman casting chain heal at the same time, plus I like to stagger frost nova) hummm kinda sleepy right now but seems trivial to round robin this.

    Still if Blizz nerfs

    /castsequence
    /cast
    /cast

    Then this will be kinda less valuable. Whats all thinking on they gonna nerf that or not? Don't want to set this all up and have it out the window next month ....
    Last edited by Sam DeathWalker : 11-25-2010 at 08:10 AM

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    Nice work Aragent. I love that this community continually adds to ideas from others to make something much better than any of us could have come up with by ourselves.

    What I like:
    • You are combining a lot of things into one big system that could really help those new to ISBoxer if they could easily get the code into their setup
    • You have started to put together a larger library of "sequence and proc" macros for class/talent combos than what's been documented in any other single post
    • Since the macros are stored in ISBoxer, you don't have the 255 character limit. For most macros the limit isn't a big deal, but for prot pallies (whose ability names are ridiculously long) I know our current sequence macro is far from perfect given the 255 char limitation - would be easy to solve these issues with your system
    • As others have stated, easy setup when adding new toons/teams
    • Because all the macros are in one place, it would be easy to plug in a new set of macros for PvP (instead of PvE) on the fly if you set up a quick toggle key that switched from your current sequence and proc macros to a PvP version, leading to a very quick changeover for all classes

    What I don't like:
    • It looks like you have set up your healers to spam heals at the same rate that DPS spams damage spells. I'm not sure that would be very effective (I always seperate my heal key from my DPS/tank threat key)
    • Someone else posted what seemed like a promising system for toggling between FTL and non-FTL to make CC a bit easier in Cataclysm. I haven't looked into this in detail, but it might be complex to combine that with this

    As to Sam's point about Blizz nerfing...
    /castsequence
    /cast
    /cast
    ....let's all say our prayers against that every night, but any current system would have to be revamped if that happens - I'm not sure how fixing this would be worse than any other.
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    Good ideas, I do see my death knight's name in the proc macro like you forgot to remove it from a paste though

    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurio View Post
    What I don't like:
    • It looks like you have set up your healers to spam heals at the same rate that DPS spams damage spells. I'm not sure that would be very effective (I always seperate my heal key from my DPS/tank threat key)
    • Someone else posted what seemed like a promising system for toggling between FTL and non-FTL to make CC a bit easier in Cataclysm. I haven't looked into this in detail, but it might be complex to combine that with this

    I keep my holy paladin casting Holy Shock on himself and Holy Light (previously Flash of Light) on @targettarget, personally. I throw in heals as needed beyond that.

    As far as the assist toggle, that would be independent of what's outlined in this thread. It's a modification of the "FTL Assist Me" mapped key, essentially, which this is making use of. It should fit right in
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    Hi everyone hope you all enjoyed Thanksiving
    daviddoran: Yes it was long but couldn't see any other way to really explain it. and No as others have said its not automation.

    Fenril: unless you have multiple brakes it really shouldnt be, each class and build macros are grouped together so you should be able to isolate the problem fairly quickly.

    Ualaa: as usual you get the concept, little bit more work initally having to set up ATG's and such, but once done should make adding new teams so much better. Im also hoping that with the comunity we can eventually have every class and talent in the macro
    I am also open to any input that will help inprove this.

    Sam DeathWalker: Havent PvPed in long time so hadn't crossed my mind, However I am open to you suggestions on things pvpand will look to implement those to help inprove the setup for all.

    Mercurio: Thank you Mercurio (as stated your one of those that started me thinking in this direction)
    [Someone else posted what seemed like a promising system for toggling between FTL and non-FTL to make CC a bit easier in Cataclysm. I haven't looked into this in detail, but it might be complex to combine that with this]
    I was looking at that and as Lax statedI think that can be added, Though I thought it safer to start off with posting things for the most part that are working [tweeking of some class macros maybe needed still at this stage of development]
    [It looks like you have set up your healers to spam heals at the same rate that DPS spams damage spells. I'm not sure that would be very effective (I always seperate my heal key from my DPS/tank threat key)]
    My thought is to have a secound 2 step macro (Basic consept as this) that will be used to heal)
    The macro in this was mostly to work on the macro and make sure it worked (and as more a prof of Consept)

    Lax: [I do see my death knight's name in the proc macro like you forgot to remove it from a paste though]
    Woops you are correct Lax I Belive I have fixed that.
    Its my hope that once complete you might be able to utilese this with Isboxer or Joe Multiboxer for initial setup.

    As usuall I am open to all suggestions on inproving this setup for the comunity
    Last edited by Aragent : 11-27-2010 at 01:48 PM

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    Can you dynamically switch the characters in the ATGs? For example if I switch talents for one Schamie from elemental to resto and push him from the elemntal ATG to the Resto ATG, will he stop doing elemental 'stuff'? Or are the macros prebuild upfront?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis View Post
    Can you dynamically switch the characters in the ATGs? For example if I switch talents for one Schamie from elemental to resto and push him from the elemntal ATG to the Resto ATG, will he stop doing elemental 'stuff'? Or are the macros prebuild upfront?
    The macros are build when you push, Isboxer (Export all to isboxer)
    I presume your asking based on dual spec. then all you need to do
    is start isboxer switch the character From one ATG group to the other ATG group make sure the character set is selected to push the new info to and do Export all to isboxer. then just do reload UI ingame and you should be all set.

    Took longer to explain than it does to impliment (the longest part of the wait time is the Reload ui.

    Unless Lax or someone else knows of another metheod if so I would be more than happy to impliment it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis View Post
    Can you dynamically switch the characters in the ATGs? For example if I switch talents for one Schamie from elemental to resto and push him from the elemntal ATG to the Resto ATG, will he stop doing elemental 'stuff'? Or are the macros prebuild upfront?

    You can use a mapped key to add or remove a toon from an Action Target Group.
    New Target Group Action
    Then set:
    - Target
    - Action Target Group
    - And choose Join or Leave


    I've used this in the past with dual-talent characters.
    My initial PvE group would sometimes go:
    1x Prot Paladin
    1x Resto Shaman
    3x Elemental Shaman

    And at other times go:
    1x Prot Paladin
    4x Elemental Shaman

    When my dual-spec shammy was Elemental, my hotkey would remove the other three from the ATG which received the Repeater Region heal clicks.
    And when they were all Elemental, it would add the other three, so all four would do the healing.




    Neat idea on the ATG's.
    And dynamically changing them even in combat.
    So a toon can change roles on the fly.

    The big macro exists for all the toons.
    And basically says, if you're an Elemental Shaman do this in this order.
    IE, a castsequence.

    The Resto Shaman will ignore that, since they're not a part of the Elemental Shaman ATG.
    But if you were to add them to that group...

    Cannot change specs in combat.
    But you could easily add a hybrid or two, to the Healing Group, if the main healer went down.
    Or similarly, if you need no heals for trash, add the Healer to the DPS group.
    If you get a chance outside of combat, you could do a gear/spec swap too.
    Last edited by Ualaa : 11-26-2010 at 07:58 PM
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    Thanks for the info. What i had initially wrong, was that I had all schamans in the elemantal group. You have to put your dual spec restoration schamie in the restoration group too (so he starts being in the elemental and restoration group). Otherwise the restoration macros dont get created.
    I also made another group "RestoDPS", which lets my Resto cast LightningBolt on occasion. When the shit hits the fan and he has to heal alot, I pull him out of the group and he can concentrate on healing alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ualaa View Post
    You can use a mapped key to add or remove a toon from an Action Target Group.
    New Target Group Action
    Then set:
    - Target
    - Action Target Group
    - And choose Join or Leave.
    I had forgoten that, thanks Ualaa this gives me an idea, Ill try and play with over the weekend if I have time.

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