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    Nice work Aragent. I love that this community continually adds to ideas from others to make something much better than any of us could have come up with by ourselves.

    What I like:
    • You are combining a lot of things into one big system that could really help those new to ISBoxer if they could easily get the code into their setup
    • You have started to put together a larger library of "sequence and proc" macros for class/talent combos than what's been documented in any other single post
    • Since the macros are stored in ISBoxer, you don't have the 255 character limit. For most macros the limit isn't a big deal, but for prot pallies (whose ability names are ridiculously long) I know our current sequence macro is far from perfect given the 255 char limitation - would be easy to solve these issues with your system
    • As others have stated, easy setup when adding new toons/teams
    • Because all the macros are in one place, it would be easy to plug in a new set of macros for PvP (instead of PvE) on the fly if you set up a quick toggle key that switched from your current sequence and proc macros to a PvP version, leading to a very quick changeover for all classes

    What I don't like:
    • It looks like you have set up your healers to spam heals at the same rate that DPS spams damage spells. I'm not sure that would be very effective (I always seperate my heal key from my DPS/tank threat key)
    • Someone else posted what seemed like a promising system for toggling between FTL and non-FTL to make CC a bit easier in Cataclysm. I haven't looked into this in detail, but it might be complex to combine that with this

    As to Sam's point about Blizz nerfing...
    /castsequence
    /cast
    /cast
    ....let's all say our prayers against that every night, but any current system would have to be revamped if that happens - I'm not sure how fixing this would be worse than any other.
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    Good ideas, I do see my death knight's name in the proc macro like you forgot to remove it from a paste though

    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurio View Post
    What I don't like:
    • It looks like you have set up your healers to spam heals at the same rate that DPS spams damage spells. I'm not sure that would be very effective (I always seperate my heal key from my DPS/tank threat key)
    • Someone else posted what seemed like a promising system for toggling between FTL and non-FTL to make CC a bit easier in Cataclysm. I haven't looked into this in detail, but it might be complex to combine that with this

    I keep my holy paladin casting Holy Shock on himself and Holy Light (previously Flash of Light) on @targettarget, personally. I throw in heals as needed beyond that.

    As far as the assist toggle, that would be independent of what's outlined in this thread. It's a modification of the "FTL Assist Me" mapped key, essentially, which this is making use of. It should fit right in
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    Hi everyone hope you all enjoyed Thanksiving
    daviddoran: Yes it was long but couldn't see any other way to really explain it. and No as others have said its not automation.

    Fenril: unless you have multiple brakes it really shouldnt be, each class and build macros are grouped together so you should be able to isolate the problem fairly quickly.

    Ualaa: as usual you get the concept, little bit more work initally having to set up ATG's and such, but once done should make adding new teams so much better. Im also hoping that with the comunity we can eventually have every class and talent in the macro
    I am also open to any input that will help inprove this.

    Sam DeathWalker: Havent PvPed in long time so hadn't crossed my mind, However I am open to you suggestions on things pvpand will look to implement those to help inprove the setup for all.

    Mercurio: Thank you Mercurio (as stated your one of those that started me thinking in this direction)
    [Someone else posted what seemed like a promising system for toggling between FTL and non-FTL to make CC a bit easier in Cataclysm. I haven't looked into this in detail, but it might be complex to combine that with this]
    I was looking at that and as Lax statedI think that can be added, Though I thought it safer to start off with posting things for the most part that are working [tweeking of some class macros maybe needed still at this stage of development]
    [It looks like you have set up your healers to spam heals at the same rate that DPS spams damage spells. I'm not sure that would be very effective (I always seperate my heal key from my DPS/tank threat key)]
    My thought is to have a secound 2 step macro (Basic consept as this) that will be used to heal)
    The macro in this was mostly to work on the macro and make sure it worked (and as more a prof of Consept)

    Lax: [I do see my death knight's name in the proc macro like you forgot to remove it from a paste though]
    Woops you are correct Lax I Belive I have fixed that.
    Its my hope that once complete you might be able to utilese this with Isboxer or Joe Multiboxer for initial setup.

    As usuall I am open to all suggestions on inproving this setup for the comunity
    Last edited by Aragent : 11-27-2010 at 01:48 PM

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    Can you dynamically switch the characters in the ATGs? For example if I switch talents for one Schamie from elemental to resto and push him from the elemntal ATG to the Resto ATG, will he stop doing elemental 'stuff'? Or are the macros prebuild upfront?

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    Was about to comment that FTL multimode should work, until I noticed all the "/assist focus" lines in the mage macros.

    I'm gonna borrow the idea though =D Will save me a lot of typing in the long run, especially since none of my teams are currently above level 70

    BTW: If you like to be a little more flexible with changing talentspecs in game you can always create a spec change keymap targetted to current window only.

    Code:
    Step 1
      Action:
        Warcraft macro action -> "/usetalents 1"
        Join Group "Druid Resto" > "Druid - UberDruid" <--- (Obviously this is aimed directly at a character not a slot)
        Leave Group "Druid Tank" > "Druid - UberDruid"
    Step 2
      Action
        Warcraft macro action -> "/usetalents 2"
        Leave Group "Druid Resto" > "Druid - UberDruid"
        Join Group "Druid Tank" > "Druid - UberDruid"
    Switch to the toon, hit the ""change spec" hot key, and Onscreen it'll change talents while simultaneously swapping Action Target Group within ISBoxer. For the few toons you actually would need to switch specs create a keymap pop this key in it and assign just that toon. Since it only goes to window current all toons version can share the same hotkey binding.

    (As always: I've not tested it, but it'll probably work =P)

    Could do this to swap stances equally well, and probably more useful too.
    Last edited by ZorbaTheGeek : 12-01-2010 at 09:54 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZorbaTheGeek View Post
    BTW: If you like to be a little more flexible with changing talentspecs in game you can always create a spec change keymap targetted to current window only.

    Code:
    Step 1
      Action:
        Warcraft macro action -> "/usetalents 1"
        Join Group "Druid Resto" > "Druid - UberDruid" <--- (Obviously this is aimed directly at a character not a slot)
        Leave Group "Druid Tank" > "Druid - UberDruid"
    Step 2
      Action
        Warcraft macro action -> "/usetalents 2"
        Leave Group "Druid Resto" > "Druid - UberDruid"
        Join Group "Druid Tank" > "Druid - UberDruid"
    Could do this to swap stances equally well, and probably more useful too.

    I've got something similar.

    It also includes:
    /Equipset PvP
    /Usetalents 1

    And:
    /Equipset PvE
    /Usetalents 2

    I just named two sets of gear, using the in-game equipment manager.
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    Updated Custom Rotation and Custom Proc macro script from first page

    Fixed Minor syntax errors and white spaces.

    also tweeked a couple macros to improve dps.

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    Aragent, I posted in Mercurio's thread, but I'll post a my final setup here.


    I did more testing with your current macro setup and found some issues.

    1. Remove the /cast Lightning Bolt from the proc macro
    2. Also remove the /cast Lightning Bolt from the rotation macro
    3. The Lava Burst proc and be either /cast Lava Burst or a /castsequence Lava Burst, Lava Burst, ....
    4. Remove the /stopcasting from the proc macro. This will cause the macro to fail entirely.

    Finally, I don't see a reason why /cast Wind Shear is listed twice.

    The main drawback to this system is that all the shamans use the same exact sequence. Of course, this is what you usually want, except for the case of wind shear. I like to staggered my Wind Shear across all my shamans, that way the interrupt capability is used more effectively. The SLOT1 Shaman has Wind Shear at the start of the rotation macro. The SLOT2 shaman has it 3 spells in, SLOT3 has it 6 spells, etc.

    That way a wind shear is going off once every 6-9 seconds.

    I've been trying to think of a way to integrate this into your setup, but haven't thought of anything yet without making a separate macro of each shaman slot, which kinda defeats the purpose of this anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daanji View Post
    I've been trying to think of a way to integrate this into your setup, but haven't thought of anything yet without making a separate macro of each shaman slot, which kinda defeats the purpose of this anyway!
    Wouldn't it work to just create 2 Shaman elemental ATG groups, and then have the macro include a second version of the cast sequence with different order for the second Shaman elemental ATG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daanji View Post
    Aragent, I posted in Mercurio's thread, but I'll post a my final setup here.


    I did more testing with your current macro setup and found some issues.

    1. Remove the /cast Lightning Bolt from the proc macro
    2. Also remove the /cast Lightning Bolt from the rotation macro
    3. The Lava Burst proc and be either /cast Lava Burst or a /castsequence Lava Burst, Lava Burst, ....
    4. Remove the /stopcasting from the proc macro. This will cause the macro to fail entirely.

    Finally, I don't see a reason why /cast Wind Shear is listed twice.

    The main drawback to this system is that all the shamans use the same exact sequence. Of course, this is what you usually want, except for the case of wind shear. I like to staggered my Wind Shear across all my shamans, that way the interrupt capability is used more effectively. The SLOT1 Shaman has Wind Shear at the start of the rotation macro. The SLOT2 shaman has it 3 spells in, SLOT3 has it 6 spells, etc.

    That way a wind shear is going off once every 6-9 seconds.

    I've been trying to think of a way to integrate this into your setup, but haven't thought of anything yet without making a separate macro of each shaman slot, which kinda defeats the purpose of this anyway!
    Thanks Daanji: Ill update it later
    Your Right their should not be a secound Wind Shear probably a copy Past error.

    I belive the /stopcasting line was in there (Theroy crafting to see if with it we could force Wind Shear to cast only when it Procs a Insta Cast)


    Thanks everyone for there improvements and help lets keep the Ideas comming
    Last edited by Aragent : 12-01-2010 at 01:22 PM

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