Hardware solutions that won’t break the bank?

[Fursphere]

To the OP - I'll sell you my vetras cheap if you want them. 2x 5 port PS/2 vetras. I am an honest guy - many people here can vouch for me i'm sure.

I was one of the longest lasting hardware guys - and eventually went software before I quit altogether (baby came).

ISBoxer is the way to go IMO.

[Whowantstoknow]

To Fenril
Guy goes into a car dealership, and tells sales guy he would like a pick up – so can you recommend any. Sales guy said minivans are better, Guy saids yes, they can hold more people, but I work construction and don’t need a minivan. Sales guy saids how about a roadster? Guy saids yes they are fast and they are shiny, but I can’t use it for work. Sales guy turns around and saids you’re an idiot, no one gets pick ups, everyone has either minivans or roasters.

Analogy is wrong. Better analogy is that everyone here is telling you to use the Pickup because its better for the intended use but you stubbonly wont listen to that advice because you think using pickups is illegal.

Software is not illegal (that would be like saying your OS or mouse drivers were illegal) but can be used illegally ie ISX glider etc.

Hardware is not illegal but can be used illegally G15 macroes.

Blues have confirmed software is legal as long as you are not automating anything.

Choosing Hardware over Software is fine and perfectly acceptable but do it for the right reasons

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well I hardware/software box.

I have six computers hardware to the mouse/keyboard but I use IsBoxer for the communicaiton between the 7 clients on each of the 5 slave computers.

Im not parinod but I think I get a little speed edge when the 6 computers don't talk to each other at all locally.

To the OP, if you are planning to pvp and you are using the default UI and some basic macros you run up against me or anyone who uses IsBoxer you will lose.

Just read this:

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=33080

You can't touch anyone doing that.

I am sure that Blizzard people read this forum if what we do is illegal they would have put a stop to it by now.

Google "Sam DeathWalker", I am not operating "under the radar" by any strech of the immagination, I am as out there as can be. What I, and everyone else here, does is open knowledge to anyone who bothers to look.

[ParanoidPenguin333]

You guys are harping on the same thing (which is one of a number of reasons why software isn’t desirable for ME – not for you…not for your friends…not for anyone on this forum…just me)

At no point did I say any of you guys are cheating or doing anything illegal. I can only imagine the bitterness and resentment that is focused on you from non boxers on WoW as to the reason why you guys are so defensive now. Isn’t it a bit hypocritical for any of you to make wide blanket statement just because you don’t understand the situation (like cases where people say your botting cause they don’t know what multiboxing is, or when people saying you have no life because you pay for more than one account – just because they can’t pay for more than one account, doesn’t mean you can’t – by extension, if you don’t want to pay for a hardware solution, and I can and want to…don’t fault me for it)

You folks also realize I’m on the hardware forum section? For everyone to keep telling me to use software cause it’s “better” is pointless. If I wanted software feedback, I would of posted on the software forum.

I’m trying my hardest not to post on this thread anymore, but clearly people still want to drag this one out In addition, people are making me out as if I said things that I didn’t. Did you guy not read the part where I said I will use this for work as well? Or because it voids any of your arguments flat out, you will choose to ignore that parameter. I will be trading equities…as in “stocks”. I work in finance…as in I work on Wall Street. You can’t install outside software on a Bloomberg Terminal. If you don’t know what a Bloomberg Terminal is, I can’t be any clearer on why I want a hardware solution.

Hopefully this is the last thread about this here. Cause if someone wants to tell me software is the way to go, they better be able to a) show me a FINRA approved software or b) be a compliance officer at a clearing house.

To Fursphere

How much and what model to you have (the vetra model number - or is it a costum unit?)?

[thefunk]

You guys are harping on the same thing (which is one of a number of reasons why software isn’t desirable for ME – not for you…not for your friends…not for anyone on this forum…just me)

At no point did I say any of you guys are cheating or doing anything illegal. I can only imagine the bitterness and resentment that is focused on you from non boxers on WoW as to the reason why you guys are so defensive now. Isn’t it a bit hypocritical for any of you to make wide blanket statement just because you don’t understand the situation (like cases where people say your botting cause they don’t know what multiboxing is, or when people saying you have no life because you pay for more than one account – just because they can’t pay for more than one account, doesn’t mean you can’t – by extension, if you don’t want to pay for a hardware solution, and I can and want to…don’t fault me for it)

You folks also realize I’m on the hardware forum section? For everyone to keep telling me to use software cause it’s “better” is pointless. If I wanted software feedback, I would of posted on the software forum.

I’m trying my hardest not to post on this thread anymore, but clearly people still want to drag this one out In addition, people are making me out as if I said things that I didn’t. Did you guy not read the part where I said I will use this for work as well? Or because it voids any of your arguments flat out, you will choose to ignore that parameter. I will be trading equities…as in “stocks”. I work in finance…as in I work on Wall Street. You can’t install outside software on a Bloomberg Terminal. If you don’t know what a Bloomberg Terminal is, I can’t be any clearer on why I want a hardware solution.

Hopefully this is the last thread about this here. Cause if someone wants to tell me software is the way to go, they better be able to a) show me a FINRA approved software or b) be a compliance officer at a clearing house.

To Fursphere

How much and what model to you have (the vetra model number - or is it a costum unit?)?

have you looked into software?

[thefunk]

Had to be done. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. Just remember it took this community may years of effort and reversing bans and education - and ensuring we behave in the best possible way for multiboxing to be proved a legal type of gameplay with many MMORPG's as well as respected.

Which explains the slightly venomous response to your query about legality. So don't be too surprised or annoyed.

Like I said, let it wash over you and continue.

[Sam DeathWalker]

The fastest cheapest hardware solution is to use wireless (you might have to buy a seperate receiver for each computer-meaning you might have to buy a mouse/keyboard for each computer but not use them).

You'll need to know how to edit the file where you computer stores mouse setting is you want the mouse to be at the same position on each computer most of the time.

You'll need one computer per account if you do that, and want all accounts to cast at the same time.

Otherwise you can alt/tab between accounts but only one will be active at a time per computer, you will not be able to control background accounts.

You will also need to set different keybinds per character if you don't want all the characters moving forward (breaking follow) if you move your main forward.

Vectra has the advantage, I think, that you can only send keys to one computer at a time or can brodcast to all. Wireless you cannot send keys to only one computer at a time.

At least thats what I have read.

[Sajuuk]

have you looked into software?

Were he only concerned with multiboxing then yes, but he also trades stocks and can't use multiple instances of the proprietary software, thus he must use multiple computers.

[Ualaa]

I work in finance…as in I work on Wall Street. You can’t install outside software on a Bloomberg Terminal. If you don’t know what a Bloomberg Terminal is, I can’t be any clearer on why I want a hardware solution.

Out of curiousity... is World of Warcraft a FINRA approved software for the Bloomberg Terminal?

[MiRai]

You guys are harping on the same thing (which is one of a number of reasons why software isn’t desirable for ME – not for you…not for your friends…not for anyone on this forum…just me)

At no point did I say any of you guys are cheating or doing anything illegal. I can only imagine the bitterness and resentment that is focused on you from non boxers on WoW as to the reason why you guys are so defensive now. Isn’t it a bit hypocritical for any of you to make wide blanket statement just because you don’t understand the situation (like cases where people say your botting cause they don’t know what multiboxing is, or when people saying you have no life because you pay for more than one account – just because they can’t pay for more than one account, doesn’t mean you can’t – by extension, if you don’t want to pay for a hardware solution, and I can and want to…don’t fault me for it)

You folks also realize I’m on the hardware forum section? For everyone to keep telling me to use software cause it’s “better” is pointless. If I wanted software feedback, I would of posted on the software forum.

I’m trying my hardest not to post on this thread anymore, but clearly people still want to drag this one out In addition, people are making me out as if I said things that I didn’t. Did you guy not read the part where I said I will use this for work as well? Or because it voids any of your arguments flat out, you will choose to ignore that parameter. I will be trading equities…as in “stocks”. I work in finance…as in I work on Wall Street. You can’t install outside software on a Bloomberg Terminal. If you don’t know what a Bloomberg Terminal is, I can’t be any clearer on why I want a hardware solution.

Hopefully this is the last thread about this here. Cause if someone wants to tell me software is the way to go, they better be able to a) show me a FINRA approved software or b) be a compliance officer at a clearing house.

As you play the victim, let me point something out. Taken directly from your initial post in this thread:

I had been weighting out the pros and cons of software vs. hardware solutions for some time now. I am leaning on the hardware route because of rumors (be it true or unfounded), of possible leaks into getting hacked. In addition to avoiding any possible issue of violating terms of service, hardware just seems like the way to go.

You mention nothing about trading stocks, Bloomberg terminals, FINRA, or anything else that restricts you to only using
hardware. Only after you begin to post again in your own thread, on page 2, you wonder where the hostility is coming
from and you begin hinting why you really need a hardware only solution. If you would have just flat out stated your
actual situation from the beginning instead of pointing your finger at software solutions and saying they're in the "gray
area," then this thread would be half as long as it currently is, with half as much bullshit, and I'm sure you would have
some real answers to your questions about hardware boxing.

As friendly and innocent as your initial post may have seemed to you, this community has heard enough from new
members mentioning "gray areas" and pointing fingers at software. We eat fingers for breakfast around here and they're
very delicious. From your initial post to your final post, your reasoning for hardware only is night and day. I could care less
if you start a new, honest, thread about why you really need info on hardware boxing; however, it won't be happening in
this one as this thread is closed.