Not as much fun to not do vehicle quest (takes being in battle), Not as much fun doing tower quest (can't kill tower outside of battle). Not as much fun not getting a win (have to be in battle). I don't care as much if people get VOA or BH (Tol'B version of VOA). I don't care if everyone can get in them no matter if you play WG or Tol'B or not. I just want to do quests (let everyone in that hasn't done quests mabye) and every once in a while, have fun actually doing objectives. Maybe a debuff system, that if you aren't near a workshop, you get a timer that counts down from 60. You get 60 secs to get to a workshop that isn't the fortress. So people actually have to go fight at workshops, not just HK. If the timer reaches 0, you get ported out and another person can come in.

My mains want VOA and BH drops, but they aren't hard to get in, since they are single. My boxers want to just play WG and Tol'B and don't want to go in VOA and BH. Let people in if they haven't done the quests is one way to fix it for me. Maybe give lower number sides mirror images (like mages) so there would be more even sides. But 20 on 20 or even up to 32 on 32 (fights on my realm) are just crappy in an open PVP zone. We used to get 2.5 raids on Tues/Wed. Then 1.5-2.0 raids on Thur-Sun. Then pretty much 1.1 raids on Mon. Now the most I have seen in like 25 games is 32. That is just sad.

Does that mean that one faction should only get to go to as many raids as the other faction goes to? Since you don't want one side getting more gear faster? Same with arena? If only a few arena teams from one faction goes, then the other faction shouldn't be able to play, since they will get practice, gear and points faster than the other faction. Hell, if one faction levels slower, both factions should be held to the same level, so one can't get to 85 faster. /StupidBlizzard Make people want to play, not force others to not be able to.