********?

[romaN237]

Hey,

Use anyone the ******** for Multiboxing? is this tool good?

[MiRai]

Hey,

Use anyone the ******** for Multiboxing? is this tool good?

Sorry, the discussion of the software you are seeking assistance with is not allowed on this site due to various reasons; and
quite frankly, there are much better alternatives out there.

[Khatovar]

That program is not discussed here. Though I can tell you that we have several users here who've regretted using it.

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=32483

http://www.dual-boxing.com/archive/i...p/t-21051.html

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=22261

[Coltimar]

Using it is like taking the bus, it gets you were you want to go. ISBoxer is a drop top Benz. It, too, gets to where you want to go but it's faster and there are usually women involved.

[zenga]

Using it is like taking the bus, it gets you were you want to go. ISBoxer is a drop top Benz. It, too, gets to where you want to go but it's faster and there are usually women involved.

HotKeyNet is like a bike at first. Also no women involved at the start. You'll have to do it yourself. But once in the zone, hot women will be happy with your performance. Also your bike turned into a tuned ferrari, for free.

[Powerwar]

I prefer keyclone.

As an adult movies producer I can tell you that it will give you the hottest women... Have several DVDs with proof videos

[Lax]

All of these comparisons are misleading and wrong

Keyclone is probably considered the "baseline" around here; a lot of people still use it and some people even consider it easy to use. It is kind of simplistic.

******** is like a Keyclone clone that's missing various features (e.g. round-robin, support for multiple PCs) and has a different UI. It's just a cash cow for a web site its owner is trying to promote, and the software doesn't get updates (neither does Keyclone these days, but that's beside the point). When you search on google, you will see a lot of his sites pointing back to his main site, because he doesn't want you to find his competitors -- if you're well-informed you'll probably not decide to pay for his product.

HotkeyNet revolves around a custom programming language that lets you build your multiboxing setup within the confines of the language. Similar, in a way, to AutoHotkey. It was originally built for Dark Age of Camelot, but DAOC changed their rules earlier this year to prohibit multiboxing software (you can also read my recent rant about this on this ISBoxer.com thread). If it were coupled with an easy to use GUI, there would be no particular reason to purchase Keyclone or ******** over a free HotkeyNet because it can perform every single function they do, if not more. Just the fact that it HAS such a configurable language means you can do things in HKN that you can't do in KC or the other.

ISBoxer is built on Inner Space, which makes it different from all of the above. Inner Space is kind of like a window manager and application virtualizer for Windows, except that it operates only on specific application windows (DirectX games launched by Inner Space). That basically means that Inner Space can do things like redirect files to another location (e.g. have WoW load a different file in place of Config.WTF for different configuration in each window), or "lie" to the game about the appearance or behavior of the game window (thus the ability to make window swapping truly instant, or to allow each game window to think it's the foreground in order to allow broadcasting -- necessary for multiboxing games like EQ1, EQ2, DDO and LOTRO on one PC). These are normal things for the operating system to be doing, and if you've got Windows Vista or later you may already be somewhat familiar with this kind of idea -- for example, Windows has a virtual file store that if the game is installed under Program Files and is not running as Administrator, will redirect data file storage to that location. So Inner Space does these things in an agnostic fashion, and in pretty much the same way Windows applies such "fixes" (in other words, there are no WoW hacks involved). Inner Space also has in-game overlay features, similar to those in X-Fire, Steam, etc (thus the ability to show each window's actual cursor while mouse repeating is on, clickable buttons in the game, semi-visible regions that automatically broadcast the mouse to other windows, etc). ISBoxer helps you configure all of these things by generating an Inner Space setup. These are just the things that you CANT get with other multiboxing software currently available. Not because the other available software is particularly "bad" -- they perform key broadcasting functionality and in many cases mouse broadcasting functionality just fine, they have basic window layout functionality, etc -- but because the simple design doesn't provide for it.

ISBoxer also has a lot of ease of use features built into the configuration GUI, wizards and the sort, and generates a WoW Addon with macros you configure through ISBoxer. And, like HKN, there is a language underneath that if you really wanted to, you can pretty much make any changes to it that you want within the confines of the language.

I'm trying to be as unbiased as I can, obviously I'm the author of Inner Space and ISBoxer.

So here's my analogy:
* Keyclone is like a Model T, people might consider it "the original" and some people still drive it (Although people drive Keyclone a lot more than they would be driving their antique Model T )
* ******** is like if a Chinese factory made a Model T knockoff and both cheaped out on the materials, left some parts out, and added some random crap that you aren't sure why they thought it would be a good idea to put in your car. It still "works", the original vendor is kind of ticked about it and it might be illegal to import (to dual-boxing.com)
* HotkeyNet is like getting a free kit to assemble your own car. Make it a Ferrari a la Zynga, whatever. I'd suggest this Lamborghini instead: http://jalopnik.com/5065896/hand+mad...s-light-of-day.
* ISBoxer is like a souped-up DeLorean DMC-12. It does everything other cars could possibly do, but when you get it up to 88 miles per hour the flux capacitor kicks in and you discover that it is truly unlike other available cars.

[Freddie]

I'm trying to be as unbiased as I can, obviously I'm the author of Inner Space and ISBoxer.

I can only judge your comments about HotkeyNet. I think they are fair and accurate. You are a gentleman, sir!

2 free alternatives that were not mentioned are mojo & many of wow. Mojo is from the same author that developed HKN, still in beta but usable.

Thanks for mentioning Mojo. I recently started Mojo over from scratch and the current build (unlike older ones) has no useful features for WoW multiboxing. They'll get added back in soon.

The issues between Tim and Ellay (MB.com and D-B.com) predate my time, and honestly aren't really my business.

I was here at the time and was involved. I corresponded with both of them privately trying to help find a good solution for everyone.

The issues were not personal. They were not "between" Tim and Ellay. Tim's business practices were in full public view. He made public statements about his software and whether it violated Blizzard's rules and everybody could judge whether they were true or false. Many people including me saw tthese things and agreed that Ellay made a reasonable decision.

[Littleburst]

I have Isboxer and love it.

One of the best features is the ISboxer chat, where in my experience Mirai or Lax will be there to solve your problems. That's very underrated imo, atleast if you're not a pro like others here(like me ).

[zenga]

I think Lax made a pretty accurate and objective comparison. However a couple of points I find worth mentioning;

• littleburst is right: the level of support lax is offering for isboxer is a huge benefit. On top of that the product is very well received by the boxing community = the community is very knowledgeable and supportive towards isboxer. If you end up being stuck, it's very likely they can solve your problems. The same is valid for HKN, both have their own well documented forum apart from this site.
• keyclone does what it promises to do: broadcast your keypresses. if you want more fancy stuff (pretty much key in pvp) isboxer offers way more features. the pricing model is different as well: isboxer has a subscription model, whereas keyclone has buy 1 license per computer you want to box with model, valid till you die.
• if you want to make use of all the abilities isboxer offers, you gonna need quite some computer (like mouse broadcasting). It renders the slaves with the same settings as the main (correct me if i'm wrong). Somewhat outdated hardware might cause problems here.
• isboxers & keyclone have a call back function: i.e. your software connects to their servers to check if your license is valid every time you fire it up. Thus if their servers are down, you 're stuck. I'm on this board for about a year and only have read a couple of threads about their servers being down (i think a day or 2-3 isboxer had probs with this a couple of months ago). But afaik the way of checking your license will change in the near future with isboxer to fix this.
• 2 free alternatives that were not mentioned are mojo & many of wow. Mojo is from the same author that developed HKN, still in beta but usable. It's author (freddie on this board) has announced that he'll pick up development for mojo again. And it's opensource. Many of wow is a new piece of software from the french boxing community. If you don't master french it's gonna take some translation software or a good old dictionary to set it up.

tl::dr myself I do not want to pay for software when I can achieve the same thing with free and/or open source tools, within a reasonable amount of time. Nor do I want any call home software on my computer. But i'm a tech kind of guy, so that might not be valid for someone else. If i was to use the windows OS, I'd personally use hotkeynet and keep an eye out for mojo/many of wow. If i was not a techy and had a recent computer (gpu power) i'd probably go with isboxer.

note: correct me if i'm wrong please