Mats Speculation for Cataclysm

[Kalyse]

I will be posting a list of the materials which I am stockpiling in a new thread when I get the time to compile it all. At the moment I just do searches and buy out anything I can think of but I want to create a routine from now up until Cataclysm of things I should be snatching up..


Currently my Altaholic says I have :

Quantity / Item / Snatch Price (Stack)
5000 Netherweave 3G.
2000 Silk Cloth 1.8G
300 Wool Cloth 5G
700 Silverleaf 7G (I may be paying way too much for this)
500 Peacebloom 7G
200 Briarthorn 7G
1200 Linen Cloth 1.2G


If you can think of anything please throw out suggestions. I will add them to the list which I will share within the next few days.
I will also share the Auctioneer Snatch Code which you can all copy and paste into your Auctioneer .lua

I want to know Ores, Leathers, Northrend Herbs which will increase, including Northrend cloth? Will Frostweave see a boost?

[Ualaa]

Tried to do one of these posts here: http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=32795
I like the title of your post, as it specifies item speculation, which was my intention.

I've decided on a budget of 100k, for my speculation.
A small portion of that has been used to create five new alts, each purely for banking. So I have five level 2's, each the sole member of their own three-bank-tab guild. I already had two guild banks. That gets me 21 x 98 = 2058 slots/stacks for speculation.



Almost everything at level 80, will likely follow the BC/WotLK trend of becoming virtually worthless overnight.
To that end, I'm slowly liquidating anything that can be sold.
This includes level 80 starter gear, for three teams that aren't 80th yet, as Quest 81/82/83 items will likely surpass this gear.
I plan to have no surplus flasks (each team will retain some for a leveling edge), level 80 green/blue gems, armor/weapon enchants etc.
I am continuing the alchemy transmutations, with my army of alchemists. But instead of stocking 8-10 stacks of Eternals/Gems for each transmute type, I'm basically buying what I need each day; profits aren't quite as good, but I won't be stuck with a pile of worthless mats.



My focus is on trade skill leveling items.

The bulk is level 80 items, specifically: Borean Leather, Adder's Tongue/Goldclover/Tiger Lily, Frostweave Cloth, Infinite Dust and Saronite Ore.
I'm buying anything available at a reasonable price.

I am also buying lower level trade skill goods, with a goal of 30-50 stacks of each.
- Light, Medium, Heavy, Thick, Rugged and Knothide Leathers.
- Copper, Tin, Iron, Mithril, Thorium and Fel Iron Ore.
- Linen, Wool, Silk, Mageweave, Runecloth and Netherweave cloth.
- Strange, Soul, Vision, Dream, Illusion and Arcane dusts.
- Briarthorn/Peacebloom/Silverleaf, Fadeleaf/Goldthorn/Khadgar's Whisker, Kingsblood/Liferoot/Sungrass and Golden Sansam/Felweed/Dreaming Glory/Ragveil.

In addition to tradeskills/first-aid, I'm stocking Netherweave and Frostweave bags.

I'll release these in waves, breaking them into groups to be released during: week 1, week 2, week 3, week 4, week 5, week 6, week 7 and week 8 of the expansion.
The goal is to sell each, as demand is the highest and supply the lowest.

[Kalyse]

- Copper, Tin, Iron, Mithril, Thorium and Fel Iron Ore.

Just the ores? Not the bars?

[Ualaa]

I figure ore is useful for Blacksmiths, Engineers, Jewelcrafters and for Miners to smelt.
It its raw form, it appeals to more classes.

[Alemi]

I figure ore is useful for Blacksmiths, Engineers, Jewelcrafters and for Miners to smelt.
It its raw form, it appeals to more classes.

You have this completely backwards -

For low level JCs, you really want bars (Copper, Bronze, Thorium and particularly Mithril). Ore won't be used until Thorium to prospect and nearly all the low level gems you need in large quantities are already plentiful on the AH.
Engineers don't use ore at all, they use bars.
Blacksmiths don't use ore at all, again they use bars.
In it's raw form, it's the material for two actions - smelting and prospecting.

So you'll be selling to miners and the occasional JC who wants to prospect for Citrine or Shadowgem.

[crowdx]

Something I have been thinking on for leveling trade skills (particularly lower level 1 - 300) is that being able to fly will make it much easier to level mining, herbalism and alchemy. In turn these mats may drop in price, so might be worth getting rid of them before the patch hits?

[Ualaa]

I could be wrong here, but here is my reasoning.

At the moment we cannot fly in the old world.
So there isn't a lot of farming going on here.

At the same time, there will be a huge demand for herbs, ore, cloth, etc.
Chances are, most people will just want to level initially, and purchase trade skill stuff down the road.
However, there are also those who want the skills as they level, and there is a limited supply.

During Week 1, Peacebloom/Silverleaf/Briarthorn, Copper/Tin, Linen/Wool and the like will sell very well, because of limited supply and huge demand.
Similarly, Week 2 and onwards, higher mats will sell.

With flying in the old world, farming becomes much easier.
So long-term the price of old-world materials will likely fall from their current pricing.

But Northrend will likely be dead, the same as Outland is now.
Aside from the Worgen/Goblins and new DK's, most of whom will burn through the content quickly to level, and not farm it so much.



I look at Ore vs Bars...

If you want the bars, chances are you either have a miner or can pay one to smelt the ore for you.

And if you're a miner, one of the better leveling methods is smelting.
Chances are jewelcrafters won't smelt much until they reach whatever the last ore type is (Saronite/Titanium equivalent).

But the ore appeals to miners.
And can easily be smelted for those who prefer bars.

Ore has sold very well, in previous expansions.
On my server, the first week of both BC and WotLK, copper and tin ore went for 100g a stack.

[riffraff]

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And if you're a miner, one of the better leveling methods is smelting.

This.. for pre-BC ores anyways.

I'm concerned tho that when you can fly in Azeroth people will tend to want to farm the low level mats instead of paying 100g a stack.. even if it means they have to take some time away from leveling.

[crowdx]

This.. for pre-BC ores anyways.

I'm concerned tho that when you can fly in Azeroth people will tend to want to farm the low level mats instead of paying 100g a stack.. even if it means they have to take some time away from leveling.

Exactly, and flying will make it SOOOO much faster

[boxblizzard]

This.. for pre-BC ores anyways.

I'm concerned tho that when you can fly in Azeroth people will tend to want to farm the low level mats instead of paying 100g a stack.. even if it means they have to take some time away from leveling.

people are lazy, and will pay top price. business for ya