rofl cant deside on new hardware

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i dont like intel is y i want amd ive never own an intel due to there problems and i dont understand them either ive been running amd for years and so far only problem is with my old amd i fryed it when the fan died i kinda amd much more reliable and honestly intel isnt worth the extra 600 for a cpu. and a 470 rilly ummm the 285 is still a better card and im thinking ati for a card now i love my new 5770 but i want the nex step up with my new setup.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well my advise is a bit different then the others, here is the order in which to spend monies:


SSD (get the revo its a PCIe ssd 50G is only $300)
1-2G video card 460 or better (if you go amd I think they have 2G video)
8G Ram (more no longer needed with 50G SSD)
Win7 64bit
X58 motherboard (or p55 or whatever it is) with 920 chip if you go intel

if you go AMD Im not sure but get the motherboard chip with the fastest data trasfer rate between the PCI buss and the ummm well with the ssd on the pci buss that changes a lot of things I need to find out where the DMA controller is. Anyway you don't need a super fast cpu, 3.0GHz is fine and number of cores, in my opinion, is meaningless.

The slowest part of all systems is getting the textures from the wow folder to the video card. So you want the SSD drive (or system ram) and you want a fast PCI path (but the PCI path speed is the same for Intel or AMD .... ), and you want 2G on the video card if possible because then you obviously need to do less transfers. Getting the $300 revo and a 2G video card is your first priority and then I don't think its going to much matter how fast the processor/mb is.

Your GPU will determine your FPS based upon your effects.
Your Ping will determine if your FPS accuratly shows where characters are.
Your GPU/SSD link speed will determine your FPS in areas where a lot of characters are moving around.

Your CPU dosnt do much fo anything that is limited.

[Kicksome]

I am going to have to pretty much concur with Sam DeathWalker on most of this stuff.

You do need 8 megs, I would get an good intel quad core too.

[alcattle]

i dont like intel is y i want amd ive never own an intel due to there problems and i dont understand them either ive been running amd for years and so far only problem is with my old amd i fryed it when the fan died i kinda amd much more reliable and honestly intel isnt worth the extra 600 for a cpu. and a 470 rilly ummm the 285 is still a better card and im thinking ati for a card now i love my new 5770 but i want the nex step up with my new setup.

I hear you and AMD will be fine. This chart shows what I was saying about CPU tiers. Only CPUs on Tier 1 are Intel. Price do reflect some of the differences but not all.

Tom's Hardware Gaming CPU chart

[Sajuuk]

i dont like intel is y i want amd ive never own an intel due to there problems and i dont understand them either ive been running amd for years and so far only problem is with my old amd i fryed it when the fan died i kinda amd much more reliable and honestly intel isnt worth the extra 600 for a cpu. .

Why the hell are you saying intel CPU's aren't reliable due to problems even though you've never owned one and will never own one due to "problems".

Seriously, what? Oh, and the only time you'll be paying an extra 600 dollars for a processor is if you're a retard and decided to get an unlocked CPU.

I have had zero issues with my i7 920. My motherboard is a different issue (and that issue stems from me switching between motherboards/configuring boot disks.).





WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO.

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ok so i priced a pc out let me know what u think

[Sam DeathWalker]

The money on the processor is a waste but ....

Plus more then 8G in ram seems a waste IF you have the revo but ....


I am a fan of LL cases but the fact there are no air holes on the side panels gives me a little pause. Still the front fan control and the three 120 fans is great, and all aluminum is a big plus for cooling.

I would still take my TT shark case over that one, cause of the real ease in swaping hard drives and the holes in the side.




But thats gonna be a real state of the art system. Might look into an NIC card later, not sure though.

You need a super CPU cooler also, I use TT Big Typhoon but its old in the tooth nowadays.


Boy it sure is misleading but that video card is worse then the 5000 series .....

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/a...ange-market/21


The 480 is faster then the 5870 which is faster then then 6870 .... I thought that AMD was winning but I guess in sinlge CPU Nvidia is rulz now.


One would think that the 6870 is the top of the ATI line but its not.



I'd go with a 920 cpu and 8G ram and get some super video card instead



well ok from this list it seems that after you eliminate all the CF and SLI duel cards the 1.5G 480 is the best:

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2...1200,2489.html

Sparkle Calibre X480

• (GTX 480 1536 MB)

No time to read it all but there is a ton of infos on this card here:

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/8225...-x480-egg.html

Yeah, I've had this for about a week. At stock clock's it's at 35-38c Idle, and 50c under load. Haven't tried overclocking yet, but I'm sure it can like a beast

and it will have lower noise them most other video cards with stock cooling. LoL you just know that a video card with 3 fans on it has to have something going for it... never used that company but ...

People are going for the 6870 as well (I don't think they know about the reviews showing the 480 kicking it) but I think the extra .5G ram makes the 480 better in this case, for wow.



I'm upgrading to a 460 soon but if I thought it would help Id get the sparkle 480 (I just run one character on my main so 460 is fine).




Here cpu cooler with TWO 120 fans cheap too:

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Produc...C=1405&ID=1956

[Sajuuk]

Yes, the Gulftown is slightly overkill, but I'm sure you'll get plenty of use out of it, especially if you overclock it with a good cooler.

As Sam said, the 6870 isn't the best of cards, in fact it's part of the lower end of the new series AMD is coming out with. It's sliiiightly better than a 5850, but not as good as a 5870.

GTX 480 vs AMD's 5XXX/6XXX line: great performance wise, at release it was a power hog that ran very hot.

I'm upgrading to a 460 soon but if I thought it would help Id get the sparkle 480 (I just run one character on my main so 460 is fine).

You don't need a 460 for running one character at maximum resolution. You of all people should know this.

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im looking at 25 chars one pc will it work and im holding off on the card becauze of nvideas new 570 thats coming out

[Sam DeathWalker]

I see 25 characters on one computer well .... don't expect to tile them no matter what video card you get I bet. No way will a single card render at full size like isboxer does 25 characters. If you play at full screen like I do though (lots of alt/tab though lol).

Oh well ya then sure 24G of ram and the fastest processor you can get....

I thought you were 5 or 10 boxing sry.


My current 9800 1G card isnt getting me 60fps on one character in Dal at max effects so I gonna try 460, its fine everywhere else though. Plus I think its wise to get ready for Cata, who knows what the requirement will be. If I go to the fountain and just spin (meaning all the textures will be loaded for the most part), I'm not getting 60fps on ultra.