AV this weekend

[mikekim]

So in short, you stated you were doing the best job in the world, challenged the word to beat you and presented one nice screenshot (stating that was your best) with 59 honor gained. (you also stated that honor gained is YOUR metric of choice)

Mokoi came back with half a dozen screenshots showing him gaining 1700-2500 honor per match.

and now you conclude by saying Well, whatever, and go by a different metric altogether (kills on a different team)


All good, nothing has changed.
Move along people.

If you are going to compare screenshots of your AV prowess, at least make sure they are current, because since the 4.0 patch, there is no way you are going to get 1-2k honor per game, unless you are seriously cheating. Sam's shot was from the Av weekend and therefore bound by the new points system.

Although 59 points per game is pretty poor though :P

[Mokoi]

Agent Sam,

good work defending yourself here, and kudos on stretching the truth so far and making un-verifiable claims, we are very proud at the way you have skillfully dodged and parried all attacks and maintained your cover as an undercover agent. Here is a few examples for the rest of us on how skilled you really are.

Obvisouly some of those are not AV.

Correct! and as we all know, real PvP happens only in AV, every other BG is a lame waste of time, Great work! (also, great mis-direction misspelling 'obviously' there, Horde never know how to spell!)

Ya well no doubt you are doing more then I am, old or not thats a lot of damage, and killz to deaths is looking good as well, I have more work to do for sure but time will tell.

Please watch it here, though, you almost gave away your true allegiances, with the "i have more work to do" and it sounded like a reasonable, sensible, Alliance thing to say. Of course you follow it up with a skillful "time will tell" the age-old deflection to an indistinguishable time-frame in which you will never really be held accountable, but serves to throw off your scent for the time being. Great job!

Well whatever. I just take consulation in the fact the DK's die to me 3-4 times.

Excellent! Forget about winning the BG, or taking objectives and being useful, just make it look as though you were contributing! that's the spirit! Great work, Agent Sam. (again, great misdirection on the spelling of "consolation" there, what a good Horde you pretend to be!)

See ya on the battlefield, dead at my feet.

PERFECT! Arrogant self-confidence with absolutely no basis in reality, exactly what we would expect if you really were Horde! Masterful! You are quite good at this deception thing, and we commend you. Keep up the great work!

-Alliance

[Mokoi]

If you are going to compare screenshots of your AV prowess, at least make sure they are current, because since the 4.0 patch, there is no way you are going to get 1-2k honor per game, unless you are seriously cheating. Sam's shot was from the Av weekend and therefore bound by the new points system.

Although 59 points per game is pretty poor though :P

Actually MikeKim, I don't take screenshots of ordinary wins, or when I am top of the BG. I am almost always top of any BG I am in.

These are old screenshots, because they were significant in some way, like the AV and EOTS and Isle's where we had 3 or 4 boxers in one group and smashed the horde, or where we won EoTS 2000 - 0 or something like that. I also do not have any screenshots of me in a lvl 71-79 BG like this because ANYONE multiboxing can steamroll in that bracket, its full of alliance in greens and heirlooms... of course you can destroy it LOL. Who here hasn't destroyed an AV 71-79, it's really not a feat of any importance, and that's why were fucking with him.

I added screenshots of WSG wins, EoTS, Isle, AB, etc because I Guarantee you will never get any of those BGs with Sam in them at the top of the charts. I dare him to try anything but AV, which is the easiest and most infantile way to multibox.

I don't have recent screenshots from "this week" because I haven't been playing since the game is dead and nobody plays AV right now. Some of us have been 80 since the first week of Wrath and have been doing excellent in BGs ever since. In what way does proficiency in a BG deteriorate over time so that only screenshots from "this week" are relevant?

The idea that these screenshots should be all about "honor gained" is ridiculous. In AV, the people who get the most honor are the people who do the most killing, and that's fine, but the people who WIN the game are the people who capture objectives and kill leaders, everyone else is leeching and postponing the game. There's a reason premade BGs avoid all PvP, it is inefficient. I prefer to kill horde, but I also capture a LOT of towers, defend a bunch and manage to top the Honor that way.

[Owltoid]

The part I find interesting is those who are bashing Sam come off as being just as pathetic as the behaviour they're denouncing.

[Sam DeathWalker]

but the people who WIN the game are the people who capture objectives and kill leaders, everyone else is leeching and postponing the game

I am sure there are many who would argue that.

I don't see where it takes the least bit of skill to run 8 guys up to the top of a tower and sit there the whole game frankly.

People who take mines, graveyards and kill oppenents going to tower are leeching lol ....

I defend Galv all the time, is that also leeching?

Why are grave yards listed at the end if they are not objectives. And how do you justify clicking on a flag with one guy while all your others stand around doing nothing?

No I am not saying use another metric at all, honor at the end is what Blizzard chose as the criteria, and they seem to give a heavy weight to honor kills when they calculate honor (duh). I was just saying that because his honor was not current that he was doing well because his killz/death ratio is good and his total damage is also good.

I'm not say I am the best (yet), but responding to arguments that I am not pulling my weight in BG's, but obviously I did move way up going from one level 80's to nine, that moves me up MILLIONS of players (out of 12 million). I really don't know where I stand but I think its safe to say anyone who is not at least 3 boxing or more is going to lose out to my nine guys, is that a fair statement? And assuming that only 3 or more boxers can kill my guys (or kill a mob that I can't kill) then where does that put me? In the top 10,000 out of 12 million or so?

And I am only at 25percent of my full power so I have a LOT left to do.

Well I try and not do other BG's cept the 40 man ones cause I want to run 9 (cause I get 9X the exp as one character gets for the same time invested) and there is no way to win a 15 man BG with me boxing 9 ....

Don't forget I was the first person ever to use focus fire with my 2 or 4 wizards way back when. You use a stratagy that I developed (hiting a single key to control multiple character to cast a spell at the exact same instant all hitting the target at the same time) every time you play WoW. I even coined the phrase instakill.

http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthr...ual-Comparison


Ok I admit that most 4 plus boxers are currently doing better then I am in BG's based upon valid SS.

On the other hand it does appear that I can kill 4 LoB DK's when they attack me.

We will see what the future brings.

[Svpernova09]

I thought we all learned a long time ago not to feed the troll.