AV this weekend

[Fursphere]

We, the alliance wanted to thank you for giving us those games that day. You really gimped the horde sufficiently and really came through as a double-agent. We especially wanted to thank you for taking up all the spots, while still managing to be the most useless boxer we have ever seen, perhaps playing your part as the struggling calf in the river too well. Your gold is in the mail, we can't WAIT to see you in the lvl 80 bracket to really take advantage of your skills.

You just made my day.

[Mokoi]

I miss your treasure trail, Fur..

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well I did kill the LoB dks more then once (although I lost one or two of my guys). If I am such a bad boxer how did LoB characters die to me? And why would I not rez my one or two dead out of eight? Thats bad play?

What statistic establishes how much work you do in a AV? Wow keeps very detailed statistics and I would be more then interested to see if indeed I am pulling my weight or not. Show me a LoB character that you feel is doing a lot as a boxer and lets do a comparison of statistics.

Ya sometimes I am rezzing and doing nothing and other times I am killing tons of ally. Ya individual players will be better then boxed toons no doubt.

One game my shaman did 400K plus in healing and was top horde healer. And my guys always end up at least 50 percent or higher of horde sorted by honor at the end of the game. If you sort by honor at the end of the game does not that tell you who did the most work. I can't belive that some guy afk in the cave will get more honor at the end of the game then someone playing hard.

Also my guys are NEVER in a group together so grounding totem dosn't stop fear on anyone but the shaman.

Ya AFTER I get done killing ally with scorch at range then I do a ae spam which I continue until I die. Lets not forget Ally spicifcally will target me first when they see me and know I am boxing.

Well lets see I tell horde "Go to Galv first then take out Bal" 70 percent of horde go to Bal leaving me a 7 others to defend Galv and Ally is smart enough to sent 100 percent of their guys to Galv and so its my 8 and 7 other (15 vs. 40) and we get slaughtered and that makes me a bad player ..... sure.

Alternatively I could join on the offensive but the way the map is (our npc's are to far from the boss to help and do nothing), the bridge is a built in choke point, and Galv is just plain closer to ally then Bal is to us, if both sides do a 100percent pure rush Ally auto wins. Also horde is to stupid to stay in the North and South bunkers after they cap them and ally send one rogue in and we lose yet again.

Horde loses 60-70percent of AV no matter if I play or if I don't play.

I play to win, not to look good, I get a LOT more exp if we win then if we lose. If I get steamrolled because the best stratagy is for me to go to Galv then thats just how it is.

But no matter my goal in AV is to get EXP and I now have 9 level 80's.


Ok here is a DK who was in AV last weekend, he is 80 now so I don't know if this is the one I faced but:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...Legion+of+Boom

His win lose in AV is 4-13 22percent wins

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...hWalker+Empire

Mine is 48-211 18percent wins


Ok lol its Mokoi's guys that died to me. Chaji etc. I guess its 4 died to my 8 well .... They just made 80 and got some AV achivments so it must have been them.

How bad can I be when all 4 your guys died to me everytime we met? And what is your excuse for a pitifull 22 percent winning percentage?



Again what stat should we be looking at to see who is doing what.



Well if

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...den&n=Mcwrathi

is your main he dosn't look all that much better (if any) then my main, although you have more Resl then I do for sure which is critical, Its looks like I would have a higher average ilevel though.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...n=Samdeathwkzz

[Zub]

Also my guys are NEVER in a group together so grounding totem dosn't stop fear on anyone but the shaman.

try Tremor :-) unless it's been removed in 4.0.1? haven't checked my shaman yet.

[Mokoi]

Dear Agent Sam,

Thanks for taking the time to buy all the crafted gear for your paladin six weeks before the launch of the expansion to further legitimize and entrench your role as a wonderful usurper of the horde. You will find a detailed breakdown of your activities and how they have helped our mutual cause below for your reference. Please pay special attention to the randomly selected control case at the bottom.

Alterac Valley

US Bloodlust lvl 80 AV Horde wins - 56% source
US Bloodlust lvl 71-79 Horde wins - 71% source

Your Mage / Shaman team AV win percentage - 18% (50~ / 260~) source
Your Paladin AV win percentage - 60% source

Combined tower caps on all your toons: 6
Combined tower defended on all your toons: 0

All Battlegrounds

US Bloodlust lvl 71-79 Horde Wins - 53% source
US Bloodlust lvl 80 Horde Wins - 52% source

Your Mage / Shaman team overall win - 17% (54 ~ / 311~) source
Your Paladin overall win - 60% source


Random toon on Alliance to compare with.

Mcwrathy, lvl 80 Shaman.

AV wins - 66% (98 / 149) source
Battleground wins - 67% (249 / 374) source

BG objectives on only Mcwrathy : 156

There are others, like Eeny, David and others who have captured / held / returned more objectives than even this case in less games.

Your utter and complete refusal to complete battleground objectives while still remaining active on the battleground (ressing your dead and spamming aoe to remain not AFK flagged) is commendable. This is truly a remarkable feat you have accomplished, and your excellent work will be displayed here for our other operatives on both sides to examine and learn from.

Thanks again, we look forward to doing business with you in the future.

Sincerely,

-Alliance

[Sam DeathWalker]

The horde/ally win stats are outdated and woefully incomplete.

Well I do go after Grave Yards but I can't go up in towers (auto follow fails) and I'm not going to move just one guy up into the tower and let the others stand and do nothing. Maybe if I was 4 boxing I might, but I do like to keep my guys always in battle because as you point out if I dont then its a wasted slot, espically seeing they are dps. Also if a horde single player is next to a flag (gy) that I can click on why would I spend the time to wait for the click and keep 7 other guys standing around doing nothing? Also Bal is a target, and what clicking on a Tower is more important then defending Galv? But ya clicking on towers is important, but its also important to keep the enemy from going into the tower..... If I kill the ally running into the tower so he can't take it back isn't that just as important as clicking on the tower?

You realize that if I solo killed Bal I would get less under your "capture objectives" standard then if I click on a single tower with one guy, which is more imporatant?

Well just what are your other guys doing while you have one that clicks on the tower? You can auto follow up to the top of the tower?


Doesn't honor at the end of the game take into consideration objectives? People who capture more objectives generally seem higher on the honor list then those who don't.

So you are saying a guy that clicks on a flag is better then a guy that does 400K in healing or 300K in damage? ....

So you running your 4 dk's into my aoe/frostnova "spam" and dieing was somehow a better strategy?

I'm not spamming to get away from a afk. I have 8 guys if 2-4 go down I might rez. If 6 go down and 2 are alive I run the 2 left alive into you guys spamming the AE so that my guy dies and all 8 are back to gether at the GY, rather then run the 6 back to the battle while 2 are sitting at the battle doing nothing, better to die and regroup (and Regen mana/hp), and I do some small damages dieing while running into ally.

Where are the objective stats anyway I dont see them under player v player.

I'm going to do SS of honor at the end of battles from now on, I am sure that Blizzard must have some way to award honor at the end that considers objectives, healing and damage done and kill shots, and killz.

Also now that i have 7dps, 1tank and 1 healer; I am WAY stronger then when I had 7dps and one healer. You could take out the shaman somewhat easy which goofs me up (and he was my only rezzer), with the Pal in the mix I'm much stronger (couldn't play the pal cause he was 80).

And check out the SS.... Thats what I do with 7 dps class. Kill Ally. There is a high resolution copy of it at my web site, first post. I think you're allegations of my trying to avoid being afk are very clearly refuted by that SS.

Yes well I will be looking forward to having you die at my feet again, its always a pleasure doing business with a disgruntled victim.

[Mokoi]

Agent Sam,

Sorry, I am not on a plane today with time to waste, so I'll be brief.

Thanks for your contributions to our cause. We appreciate your services. However, I have not had word of your actions in recent battlegrounds, if you could give us a code as to when you plan on being in the BGs again we will be sure to be there and utilize your double-agent skills.

-Alliance

[Hivetyrant]

*Grabs popcorn*

[Zub]

Also now that i have 7dps, 1tank and 1 healer; I am WAY stronger then when I had 7dps and one healer.

just curious, how does having a tank help in pvp? Are the opponents stupid enough to target the tank ?

DeathWalker hits End Game with NINE level 80's!

Also, this ^
curious to know how you progress in end game.

[Ualaa]

I suppose Drek/Galv or Belinda/Vandar can be tanked, with a tank.
Aside from that, a tank (over a DPS or Healer) doesn't get you much.