Fixing the Ret Paladin post 4.0

[Mosg2]

Hmmm. I'm playing with this right now. He does lose some white swings to the /stopcasting but it *does* do good dps. Downloading recount and will repost what I'm getting in a few.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Button 1 the clicker
/startattack
/click whateverbaryouuse1
/click whateverbaryouuse1
/stopcasting
Button 2
/castsequence reset=combat crusader strike, judgement, crusader strike, divine storm or templar's verdict(i use both so i have an aoe button and a single dps button)
Button 3
/cast Exorcism

Full of win

I think, based on other posts here, that you can do the above in a single macro if you use BindPad or another macro-extending program. I'll give the above a try tonight, though I think I had basically the same thing going with exorcism on a manual button. I wasn't seeing but 1800dps verus the 3900dps I normally put out on the boss target dummy.

[Mosg2]

3300 dps running this macro, 4350 running manually myself. I'm not sure a 25% dps loss is acceptable :/ I'll tweak it a bit and see what I get.

Edit: 12k TV crits are really fun though haha.

Further edit:

Wow. I swapped from Seal of Truth to Seal of Righteousness and the difference is amazing. 4000dps with the macro, 4030 manually controlled.

An even further edit: This is without glyphs mind you. Just spec, train, dps on dummy.

[Whowantstoknow]

I thought that only worked with a spell with a cast time? Or does it count Exorcism as having a cast time even when it's instant via Art of War?

No it used to require a spell with a cast time in the /castsequence part but they made a change to the spell queue a few days before 4.0.1 which changed this behaviour. I expect them to fix this though as it seems to be an unintended change.

[halabar]

Button 1 the clicker
/startattack
/click whateverbaryouuse1
/click whateverbaryouuse1
/stopcasting
Button 2
/castsequence reset=combat crusader strike, judgement, crusader strike, divine storm or templar's verdict(i use both so i have an aoe button and a single dps button)
Button 3
/cast Exorcism

Full of win

I thought we can't use two /click in a row in a single macro now?

[Ualaa]

Click can call multiple buttons, but only one of those can be a castsequence, the other has to be a single spell.

So you go with a spam macro, which calls two buttons.
Put a castsequence on the first button.
And put a single fall-through spell on the second button.

You end up casting the fall-through whenever it is off of cooldown.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Yeah, I'm highly underwhelmed at this point. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. With about 4800ish GS on my rets, I'm only seeing about 2800dps on the 70 dummy, 2400dps on the 80 dummy and barely 2000dps on the heroic dummy with the macro noted above. It's about 40% off from where I was last week.

My rets are capped on hit/expertise, ~24% crit, 8.00 mastery, ~3500ap, 291 haste, 1550ish str. Suggestions welcome.

[lightstriker]

Button 1 the clicker
/startattack
/click whateverbaryouuse1
/click whateverbaryouuse1
/stopcasting
Button 2
/castsequence reset=combat crusader strike, judgement, crusader strike, divine storm or templar's verdict(i use both so i have an aoe button and a single dps button)
Button 3
/cast Exorcism

Full of win

But, if Art of War is not up, Exorcism goes to a long cast, just like prior to the patch. I have always manually do it with Jamba proc. Jump instant cast, if not all Rets have AoW up.

[Maxion]

But, if Art of War is not up, Exorcism goes to a long cast, just like prior to the patch. I have always manually do it with Jamba proc. Jump instant cast, if not all Rets have AoW up.

That's what the /stopcasting is there for, to keep it from doing the cast of it if art of war isn't up.

[Fuzes]

stopping non aow'd exorcisms with /stopcasting seems to cost massive dps (autoswingtimer resetting for every try to cast it) ... the fix should be to bind jump to your attack keys .. wich means 2 actions at once (baaaaaaad) or .. well .. spamm your attack + jump keys ;D

it wont start to cast the exorcism while your moving so no x00 ms "cast" until it realizes there is a stopcasting .

another problem is that is see no way to use the mastery "proccs" on 4 rets ...