Quote Originally Posted by Pycno View Post
You wrote you deserved verbal punishment if you caused your team to lose. If 15 mediocre gladiators meet 15 great gladiators then according to you these mediocre gladiators deserve verbal punishment.
I'm all open to being helpful and give advice to players that want it, but harassment or verbally punishment should earn you a ban.

Also there is no way for you to know if a player is a newbie trying hard or a pro slacking.
I've played with people that used demoralizing shout instead of maul because they fought it dealt more damage - the animation of the shout has the bear rising up and smashing down on opponents but it deals 0 dmg.
And also someone using volley to single target dps also thinking it dealt the most damage with dozens of arrows raining down.


BTW the examples you listed are outright whine and complaining. It helps for nothing except show the world how short a fuse you have and little patience before you must vent out frustration.
You can't quote someone arguing singually then give an example of a team effort.

If "you" cause your team to lose "you" deserve verbal punishment. (That is singular).

If 15 mediocre gladiators meet 15 great gladiators then according to you these mediocre gladiators deserve verbal punishment. (That's not singular and thus a poor example which only reflects badly upon your debating skills and argument. No offense intended there, just pointing out the flaw... "I'm all open to being helpful and give advice to players").

Now, within that team of 15 mediocre gladiators, there would be some who follow a team strat (hopefully one that generally provides positive results) and there will be a few who go 'do their own thing.' While they do have every right to do so, you have to admit that it can (and does) cause their team to lose (assuming they lose of course, because you failed to cite wether or not they actually lose to the 15 great gladiators who may or may not have been "pros slacking"). Staying in the middle all game to HK farm and ignoring the opposition flag carriers/healers will help cause (a lot) your team to lose (maybe that's why they are mediocre in the first place).

Punishment (one extreme) is helpful for providing reflection and education. If no action (the opposite extreme) is taken to correct one's behaviour, then no improvment should (usually) be expected in performance.

BTW, Zenga's last 4 examples are actually really good examples of showing what a player does wrong and how to rectify it in a not overly-aggressive manner. I don't see how you fail to see that..

If you want to play with players of your level you can hand pick each and every member of your party or raid for dungeons and nearly all battlegrounds, this would be a good thing as decent players don't have to be harassed by elitist players that becomes angry or frustrated with a game.
1. It's one of the reaosn we multibox
2. Decent players don;t usually get harrassed.