pvp and haters

[Sbrowne55]

How do you guys handle all the hate? Sometimes when I'm just doing spectacular in a bg, while the others aren't I always get the blame for the loss. Some call me useless, retarded, terrible etc. Now usually it's the ones dying the most who complain, but sometimes, it's not. What is it, that makes them hate you even when your seriuosly doing all the work? Is it jealousy, tactics, the fact u take up 5 spots.

[zenga]

If you take up 5 spots in 10-15m BG , and you don't play excellent (i.e. better than 5 decent individual players could do), it's understandable that you will be blamed/hated for the loss. Doing 'your best' might be ok for some, but basically a non excellent boxer looks like a selfish bastard in WsG when he takes up 5 spots. If you were to run just 3 toons in WsG, then the team will most likely benefit from you. The rule of thumb for me is that a boxer should never be more than 1/3rd of the team, unless you are really good.

That is if they give you an objective comment. If they insult you and if they act like 14y old kids, just ignoring them will do. You might try to educate them if you are in a good mood, but ignoring mostly tends to work better for me. If you are good and carry the whole team, only the stupid will whine.

[Ualaa]

I've seen quite a few people post that they have disabled a lot of the chat channels. If you cannot see Battleground Chat, then you're unlikely to be bothered by anything that is said in that channel.

Some battlegrounds are more boxing friendly then others. For the most part, try to do the ones which you enjoy the most - which is probably the ones where you're able to contribute more in. If you can queue with a friend who is a healer, so your sole concern is bursting others down, you might be a bit more successful too.

Play to your strengths. You can burst people down, before the other team has an opportunity to react. You can storm a defended node and take it because of your coordination etc. In general, you're better off on offense then on defense, unless you're holding a choke point.

Ignoring the hate is probably better then arguing with the idiots.

[Pycno]

I think the haters are fun, in counterstrike I would fish for haters by camping and sniping but in wow its enough to just multibox.
Just don't pay attention to them if they bother you, you are right they are wrong and there is no need to discuss anything
Actually if such comments bother you it must be hard to stay happy if your good mood is so fragile and easily swayed, just smile and laugh at them.

[valkry]

Don't turn off BG chat, you will limit your communication with the rest of the team and unlikely be able to help with an agreed strat because you can't see what it is... in which case they would be right in insulting you.

I have seen many BGs won with far less HKs by the winning team.

[Kicksome]

You think that's bad?

I had a boxer "Minxy" Mintythree (Who happened to be on just ONE of his toons in EOTS - and on my team). Start saying in EOTS how bad my 4x warlocks were. I have a positive win rate in EOTS, I'm not the best player, but I win more than I lose. I went through the trouble of getting all the crafted PvP gear and wrathful offsets that I could. But everyone needs to start somewhere, regardless.

We were actually winning the BG, and he was saying how fail I was.

Literally, he talked trash non-stop, while I was busting my ass. And we were WINNING.... When I said, how are you trash talking when we're winning? And he said, we're only winning because the team is carrying you.

So it was like 1200 to 1000, finally I had enough of the trash talk and said - you want to see what happens when I don't try? Because I think there's some confusion.

And I just sat at the GY. Needless to say Horde came back strong and we lost. But hell if I'm going to bust my ass and do my best, and then let some asshole talk trash the whole time.

Any normal person, no problem, but when it comes from a fellow boxer that's on my team spamming /bg that's pretty friggin bad. If you ever see that guy, he's an asshole.

Especially if it's a person who comes to this forum, and uses the information that all the boxer discover and take the time to post here. He's probably out there insulting the very people who helped him with his team.

[valkry]

You think that's bad?

I had a boxer "Minxy" Mintythree (Who happened to be on just ONE of his toons in EOTS - and on my team). Start saying in EOTS how bad my 4x warlocks were. I have a positive win rate in EOTS, I'm not the best player, but I win more than I lose. I went through the trouble of getting all the crafted PvP gear and wrathful offsets that I could. But everyone needs to start somewhere, regardless.

We were actually winning the BG, and he was saying how fail I was.

Literally, he talked trash non-stop, while I was busting my ass. And we were WINNING.... When I said, how are you trash talking when we're winning? And he said, we're only winning because the team is carrying you.

So it was like 1200 to 1000, finally I had enough of the trash talk and said - you want to see what happens when I don't try? Because I think there's some confusion.

And I just sat at the GY. Needless to say Horde came back strong and we lost. But hell if I'm going to bust my ass and do my best, and then let some asshole talk trash the whole time.

Any normal person, no problem, but when it comes from a fellow boxer that's on my team spamming /bg that's pretty friggin bad. If you ever see that guy, he's an asshole.

Especially if it's a person who comes to this forum, and uses the information that all the boxer discover and take the time to post here. He's probably out there insulting the very people who helped him with his team.

Yea, it's annoying when people bag you even though you are winning. A few times I myself have been insulted while we were winning because I got wiped out or failed to kill someone (yet what is important that I held the base long enough for help to arrive or prevent a cap goes un-noticed). And that is just wierd for a boxer to insult another boxer, seeing as we all start off as beginners.

BUT... you got trolled dude, and you just wronged everyone else on the team - who were trying to help win - because of one disgruntled player. They didn't deserve that. GG dude, really helping with our image. If you had just continued playing til the win everyone else would have left happy and considered you a decent player. But, with the stunt you pulled, you are the one who comes off looking like the dick.

I got nothing against you, but yea, just calling it how I see it.

[Kicksome]

BUT... you got trolled dude, and you just wronged everyone else on the team - who were trying to help win - because of one disgruntled player. They didn't deserve that. GG dude, really helping with our image.

I got nothing against you, but yea, just calling it how I see it.

Well, you weren't in the BG so you didn't actually see anything. This actually happened to me.

If you saw the non-stop trash talking by Minxy you'd understand he was the one who lost the BG for the team. A few people started joining in with Minxy - "yeah you suck!" - people from his server who probably knew him. There were also two bots, so who cares about them. So that leaves about 3 people. At the end of the game, the BG leader says, Minxy, next time just STFU and play.

Enough people understand that if people start trash talking the whole BG, it's not the person who you're trash talking fault when you lose. It's the people who are doing more typing than playing.

I've carried enough BGs and had enough people say - "Awesome the Sweet team is here!!!" over the 3 years I've PvPd, that I have no problem at all if I lost one BG. I have an incredible rep in BGs and on my server. I've done far, far, far, far, far more harm than good. Everyone has a bad day. And I'd do this again in a second. In fact, I'd be pissed at myself if I didn't.

[Pycno]

Kicksome, sounds like a really fun guy to piss off. Basically you can just act like you dont care and say he is way too much into the game.
Tell him its really important that he keeps playing and and let him know how proud his kids will be of their leet father that talks trash about others on the internet.
Their behavior is both stupid and embarrassing and such bullies deserve being made fun of.

My ONLY complaint with the games I play is whiners that swear and ruin a good time for others with their bad tempers. I adapted to this and have now almost cone to like whiners

[blast3r]

I find there is more hate in lower level BGs. In fact, for the most part, my team gets worshiped in the 80 bracket AV. Every so often there is a stupid noob hater who says something about me 'botting'. Where I then announce:

/bg Botting is against the TOS. If you find someone botting please report them to a GM. Thanks