Well i have encountered a problem with the 470 and it may be going back. It doesnt happen all the time but the graphics will freeze and i cannot do anything but reboot the system. Seems to be a well known diver issue from all the posts that ive read. Sometimes it freezes just surfing the net and has frozen about 6 times now while playing wow. I assume the 460 is a good card that people have been using what about the 5870 or 5850 how are those cards so i know what to pick up?