err yea i was looking at my other graphics card while typing =-( Also i dunno why people say 470 runs hot. my 4870 ran at like 70 with fan on 50% i have fan on 50% with this card and im at 58 so it runs alot cooler than all other posts ive been seeing. tho my case is blowing so much cool air around in there feels like AC out of the top fan!
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