Soooo done with Wrath PVP

[Littleburst]

I see your point, but I wasn't posting with the top rated BG teams in mind, or to reach #1 spot. And outdrsyguy worded what I wanted to say.

Then your points is valid indeed. That's comparable with pugs these days where the 4 restokins will be a tough nut.

And on an added note: I believe it takes a certain kind of mindset/skill from your teammates to make a boxer valuable in the team. If they understand the asset a boxer can bring, understand the limits of boxing, then it's a big win. If not, then a boxer might handicap the team.

/agree aswell.

"let's join the boxer, so we're even stronger" in AB ftl.

[remanz]

Well, you don't have to play all 5 ALL the time. Play 3 if in a smaller group BG, the game is about trying to win and have fun doing it. If bringing fewer slaves is beneficial to the team, I am sure we all be glad to do that.

[Catamer]

PVP was so much fun at the end of BC. I could spend all night just doing AV.
as it is now the only PVP is wintergasp where there are so few horde on my server we pretty much have to kill the NCP at the horde flight stop just to have something to shoot at (how can that be fun for either side). AV rarely last 3-5 minutes with people killing the bosses with all towers up ( no more epic full length battles there)

PVP sux and I think most of the PVP changes were supposed to be anti-boxing "fixes"... if those fixes were so wonderful why doesn't everyone do it to the same extent that we used to in BC.

[remanz]

PVP was so much fun at the end of BC. I could spend all night just doing AV.
as it is now the only PVP is wintergasp where there are so few horde on my server we pretty much have to kill the NCP at the horde flight stop just to have something to shoot at (how can that be fun for either side). AV rarely last 3-5 minutes with people killing the bosses with all towers up ( no more epic full length battles there)

PVP sux and I think most of the PVP changes were supposed to be anti-boxing "fixes"... if those fixes were so wonderful why doesn't everyone do it to the same extent that we used to in BC.

Make no mistake here. WOW is a PVE game. All the development effort was spent on making new PVE contents. PVP is an add-on. No depth in PVP, no major update for PVP, it is simply a meta game there for you to kill time or take a break from PVE. If the focus is PVP, we be having skills that only usable in PVP, constant world events dedicated to PVP, as well as rewards that encourage you to go out and PVP.

As for why we didn't play as much as in BC, that was like 3 years ago, we've been playing the same PVP since wow release. A little change here and there doesn't make it a new game.

[Fat Tire]

Make no mistake here. WOW is a PVE game. All the development effort was spent on making new PVE contents. PVP is an add-on. No depth in PVP, no major update for PVP, it is simply a meta game there for you to kill time or take a break from PVE. If the focus is PVP, we be having skills that only usable in PVP, constant world events dedicated to PVP, as well as rewards that encourage you to go out and PVP.

So true its not even funny. I am still amazed to this day on how they can market pvp as an esport.