Soooo done with Wrath PVP

[zenga]

Rated battlegrounds will be worse for multiboxers than arena IMO, we will never be as good as 5 players and we will not be accepted into any good team - we can solo our way up to high ratings there. And also I expect rated battlegrounds to be completely dominated by stupid cheesy tactics, something I like but many people find annoying because its not how *they* thing it *should* be like.

That is an interesting point you bring up. However I only partially agree. Multiboxers will have to adapt, and then they 'll be a big asset for the team, something solo players can't bring, definitely not with the pvp changes in cata, i.e. focused fire. With adapt I mean: change your setup in function of the team and the respective BG. You can't expect that a serious team will take in each and every 5x shaman boxers in WsG or AB. However if you were to multibox 3x (resto) druids, you'd make a very strong flag carrier / guard. In AV i see a team of 5 shamans backed up with a healer or 2 and a hunter / lock dominating the midfield (don't underestimate the importance to have a team running around and taking out/slowing down everyone who is on their way to an objective). etc etc ... each bg and each team will have it's own needs. And I'm very sure multiboxers will fit in.

[smokebum]

I for one will miss the grind and frustration cuz I believe it's the only thing that forced me to try to be better. Rated bgs will be hard for my current play style (i just love running 5 shamans) but like all things in life, I will adapt or find something else to do.

[Littleburst]

However if you were to multibox 3x (resto) druids, you'd make a very strong flag carrier / guard.

I have to completely disagree on that. The only advantage a boxer brings is focussed fire. You're not able to CC as good as 3,4 or 5 different players. So 3 resto druids will and should always outpreform 3 boxed resto druids.

It's something comparable with PVE, where you can preform well by brute forcing content quite easily. As soon as it gets complicated and requires CC and a lot of movement, it's a lot harder. Same applies for PVP. Once you meet actually good players, a team of 3 players will be able to properly give you a hard time.

Besides the focussed burst, you'll also only need 6 + 1 boxer = 7 players instead of 10. I'm pretty sure that'll be helpful aswell. Because people seem to forget that you're gonna need up to 25 good pvpers to actually do well in AV for example, so i really don't see the average AVgroup being full stealth or anything.

[Fat Tire]

Mages will be the best flag runners in the game come cata-

All specs can reach the talent blazing speed atm.

[Littleburst]

Mages will be the best flag runners in the game come cata-

All specs can reach the talent blazing speed atm.

They die like a fly? Can't iceblock with flag. Only destro locks die faster i think.

[zenga]

I have to completely disagree on that. The only advantage a boxer brings is focussed fire.
...
Once you meet actually good players, a team of 3 players will be able to properly give you a hard time. .

I see your point, but I wasn't posting with the top rated BG teams in mind, or to reach #1 spot. And outdrsyguy worded what I wanted to say.

Don't forget, a lot more people are going to play rated bg's than played arena. Now that they only gain points from winning and can eventually gear up that way, they will play bg's en masse. Yeah you'll get pro teams, but there will be TONS of pug teams and such and I really feel positive about it.

And on an added note: I believe it takes a certain kind of mindset/skill from your teammates to make a boxer valuable in the team. If they understand the asset a boxer can bring, understand the limits of boxing, then it's a big win. If not, then a boxer might handicap the team.

[Littleburst]

I see your point, but I wasn't posting with the top rated BG teams in mind, or to reach #1 spot. And outdrsyguy worded what I wanted to say.

Then your points is valid indeed. That's comparable with pugs these days where the 4 restokins will be a tough nut.

And on an added note: I believe it takes a certain kind of mindset/skill from your teammates to make a boxer valuable in the team. If they understand the asset a boxer can bring, understand the limits of boxing, then it's a big win. If not, then a boxer might handicap the team.

/agree aswell.

"let's join the boxer, so we're even stronger" in AB ftl.