Tip to get some players flagged pvp while stealthed

[lans83]

I'd say kudos to you for finding this out. Hell, I might try it myself. Even I took my solo Pally to Booty Bay and kept killing the Horde's Flight master on Pirate day tryin to get people to flag and brawl. Before then I brought my Rogue down there, barely 70 at the time and /sapped those that were flagged to tempt them. I got a few, but seeing the Booty Bay guards coming to my aid. Sat on top by the Captain and watched each person that attacked me get launched off the roof. Ah, what fun. And yes, I'm on a PvE server myself.

[zenga]

I'm not probing the morality of trickery, I'm saying its a dick move any way you cut it. But hey, you want to be a dick? Fine, go for it. You want to pretend to be a PvP badass by tricking people in to flagging on a PvE realm? Kudos to you. Just don't be surprised when people call you on it.

If that is your definition of being a dick, fine by me. It's not by my standards. And it seems pointless from my point of view to argue about standards.

However I don't see, in all objectivity, how I pretend here to be a pvp badass? I clearly say it's a trick, counting on the opposite faction not paying attention to what they do. I also state that I kill them off once they are outside, which can be seen as 'ganking'. But hey, feel free as a boxer yourself and 1 shotting people to call someone out for sharing a trick like I described. I can only shake my head, smile and move on.

[MiRai]

Sorry guys, this discussion is over. You're apparently not allowed to "trick" your mortal enemy into flagging for PvP because it is immoral and you may end up hurting someone's feelings. Zenga... consider yourself a horrible person.

[Zub]

Back in the days, when for whatever reason i visited a lower level area and noticed some alliance was around, I used to try and trick them by flagging myself, sitting and typing /afk.

They would circle around a bit, and decide that I was an easy prey (since afk) and attack me (flagging themselves)
unfortunately they would quickly realize that having the /afk tag didn't mean the player had to be away from its keyboard.

so basically they attacked something red, and died from their own stupidity. I don't see the difference here.

[zenga]

Zub consider yourself a horrible person!

Shall we start a club?

[Zub]

Shall we start a club?

Can we get jackets?


I remember, not so long ago on these forums, someone mentioning multiboxing one flagged toon sitting with 4 stealthed rogues/druids next to him, waiting to see a higher level take the bait.

[Multibocks]

This thread is hilarious. Exploiting stupidity is so mean! You are a bad person!

[JoeWunsch]

Got to agree on that, if you want to PVP get onto a PVP server. Tricking inexperienced players into PVP is what the exploit is and it's pretty cheap.

There's a similar thing in EVE - you leave a container with some goods in it outside a newb station (where new players start) and then when they loot it thinking it's goodies you can obliterate them. In EVE this is one of the few PVP interactions that can get you banned (ont that it'd ever actually happen but it is mentioned in the 'player conduct' rules somewhere)

Anyway probably funny once or twice but these things tend to get out of hand and result in bans - remember all the 'anal [item_name_here]' stuff in chat - that had to be stepped on by GMs eventually.

It isn't an exploit....

To the alliance, the pet he attacked is clearly a ?? combat pet from someone on the opposite alliance.

Just because they were dumb enough to attack a lvl ?? combat pet doesn't make his creative thinking an exploit.

This is allowed, I used to do it Pre-BC with exploding sheep.

Using the game mechanics to work to your advantage doesn't automatically mean you are exploiting. Sure, they most likely didn't intend for someone to do this, but do you think when they were designing grounding totem they inteded for so many of us to play 5 shaman at once to basically be immune to spells while they are up?

[JoeWunsch]

Well, if that's your idea of fun, maybe you should keep it to yourself. I mean, you spell out yourself you prefer PvE because you can control when you PvP or don't, but your actions themselves reek of hypocrasy because you are denying that implicit choice to the people you are goading in to flagging.

At the end of the day, yes, they flagged themselves by being stupid, and you killing them is just another reality, but coming here and posting how you trick people isn't going to get you a high five and a pat on the back. It gets you a frown and a dismissive shake of the head.

I am sure people think the same of you when 5 chain lightnings hit them at once because you are playing 5 guys at once. to them, you are also a dick.

I think you are taking wow way to serious if tricking "the enemy" in a video game to lose, is being a "dick".

[RobinGBrown]

It's about sportsmanship not 'play2win'.

but this discussion has been done to death before, some multiboxers play2win and others are sportsmen.

This thread needs to be locked before it turns into a flamefest.